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#31 Chuck U. Farlie

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:12 PM

The question is irrelevant since she stands 0% chance of becoming the prime minister.

What I find more appalling is that the leader of the current opposition party has dual citizenship! Dion is a disgrace and never should have been voted to top spot of the Liberals.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 03:16 PM

The question is irrelevant since she stands 0% chance of becoming the prime minister.

What I find more appalling is that the leader of the current opposition party has dual citizenship! Dion is a disgrace and never should have been voted to top spot of the Liberals.


Agreed! Perhaps it is merely an emotional reaction but I just can't stomach the thought of someone leading the country holding two or more citizenships!

I'm a Canadian and I want someone who's ONLY a Canadian as my Prime Minister! There must be no question, however soft, about where their true loyalties lie.

This is Canada, NOT the United Nations!
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 04:11 PM

This is Canada, NOT the United Nations!

Just wait till Justin Trudeau becomes Prime Minister. There will be no need for Canadian citizenship because we'll all be "citizens of the world". :lol:
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 07:24 AM

I was referring to having Canadian values and feelings.

I think Canadian voters will be able to judge whether or not a potential Prime Minister has values and feelings that they agree with. Your birthplace does not determine your values or your feelings.

Yet no one seems to accuse May of being a typical American. Curious.

Probably because typical Americans live in the United States of America. They do not emigrate to Canada.

Some things have to be learned in childhood or one may grow up incapable of ever learning. Case in point is thinking by the scientific method. Apparently if a child is never taught such before a certain age they will likely never be able to grasp the concept.

People used to say the same thing about learning languages. Until they were proven 100% wrong. Children learn things faster than adults, but this does not mean adults are incapable of learning.

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 07:27 AM

What if she were born in Italy and became PM, and then Mussolini Jr was born & for whatever reason World War III started & Canada went to war with Italy? Do you not see a possible conflict of interest there?

I love the what if game!

What if she were born in Antarctica and then we found out that there is a whole nation of Antarcticans who hate Canada and then Canada went to war with Antarctica?

What if people on this forum were able to argue a point without making up ridiculous scenarios and then claiming that this proves their point?

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 12:17 PM

I love the what if game!

What if she were born in Antarctica and then we found out that there is a whole nation of Antarcticans who hate Canada and then Canada went to war with Antarctica?

What if people on this forum were able to argue a point without making up ridiculous scenarios and then claiming that this proves their point?


We've been there and got the tshirt!

Canadians of Serbian descent fought in the Kosovo war in the early 90's, often fighting against Canadians. Many of them are back in Canada now, with no repercussions.

Draw your own conclusions.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 01:03 PM

Green Party doesn't even exist (AFAIK) in USA.


Does Ralph Nader know this?

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 02:22 PM

According to what she said in 2007, May thinks Canadians are stupid.

http://rapidshare.co.../crazy_c0ok.rar

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 02:32 PM

I am not in favour of different 'levels' of citizenship. A citizen is a citizen. If the electorate has reason to think their allegiances lie elsewhere, then they won't be elected.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 03:03 PM

I am not in favour of different 'levels' of citizenship. A citizen is a citizen. If the electorate has reason to think their allegiances lie elsewhere, then they won't be elected.


And she won't anyway.

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 03:08 PM

According to what she said in 2007, May thinks Canadians are stupid.

http://rapidshare.co.../crazy_c0ok.rar


Well, if she's right they won't care.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:11 PM

Well, if she's right they won't care.



That's a quote taken out of context.

Edited by tango, 13 September 2008 - 04:12 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:46 PM

That's a quote taken out of context.


Lets hope it is. I was on her side until I learned of this today.

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 05:29 PM

Lets hope it is. I was on her side until I learned of this today.

The disputed comments were made on Steve Paiken's The Agenda. Here is the link to a complete overview of the matter from TVO.

To some listeners, May's comment is made a bit more ambiguous by another comment she makes right afterward: "... and I fundamentally agree with that assessment...".

It is unclear if she is agreeing with the assessment that Canadians are stupid, or with the assessment of the questioner from the audience, who says there is no political will for a carbon tax. To be fair to May, she clearly does agree with the latter assessment. The question is whether or not she also agrees with the former.


http://www.tvo.org/c...mp;post_id=8113

Sometimes May speaks so quickly it's hard to follow what she says. This could get her into trouble in the debates.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 05:38 PM

That's a quote taken out of context.


Here's the whole interview:

http://www.tvo.org/p...yeGDP022207.mp3

She makes the statement at just past the 38 minute mark.

How is that out of context? She clearly directly answers the question of why there is so little political will for a carbon tax. She very clearly says it's because politicians think Canadians are stupid, and she fundamentally agrees with that assessment. There is no way to spin it as saying anything else.

I'm not saying she's wrong even, most people ARE stupid, in any country. But if I was the leader of a political party I sure as heck would not SAY it on TV.



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