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#1 charter.rights

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:58 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/ca...r-bay-hair.html

The Crown doesn't think they will pursue charges. Outrageous!
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#2 Chuck U. Farlie

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:11 AM

I like one of the comments given below the article:

"The answer is very simple. Hold the teacher down and shave her head. Afterall it appears not to be a crime."
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:29 AM

You have those that are not qualified arranging for the administration of mind altering drugs to children..a teacher basically prescribes the dope - they have no right....also - if we do not stand up and say - "I am not property of the state" "My children are my product and my property - they are NOT the property of the state - and no one has the right to come onto my property and cut MY grass - no matter how well intentioned - no one has the right to cut my childs hair - or change my childs brain chemistry.....RESPECT - is the transference of power -

a teacher is to empower the child - NOT dis-empower - the child and by doing so dis-empower the parent - this is great disrespect of the child and the parents - and if the courts or government do not reprimand this teacher harshly - the message sent to the populace is "WE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE AND SEEK TO DISEPOWER THEM - If that is the case - then the whole goddamned government and court should step down and get lost...Because they are counter in what they do...they harm us and do not sustain or govern us...If they do not govern - they the ARE FIRED - ALONG WITH THIS LUNITIC TEACHER - THEY ALL SHOULD f OFF.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:07 AM

WHy should there be charges laid? The little prick needed a hair cut, the teach gave him one for free... a win-win, no?

People have no respect for authority anymore. Back where I'm from a teacher could chop your head off & people wouldn't make this much fuss. Pussy canadians.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:04 PM

WHy should there be charges laid? The little prick needed a hair cut, the teach gave him one for free... a win-win, no?

People have no respect for authority anymore. Back where I'm from a teacher could chop your head off & people wouldn't make this much fuss. Pussy canadians.

Because it was a physical assault.

No one has the right to touch another human being without their consent.

Oleg.

The first things the teachers, ministers and administrators did when children arrived at residential school is they shaved their heads. They did the same thing to Jews upon internment. It is a de-humanizing technique used degrade moral.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:26 AM

Assault is a big strong of a word IMV.

That being said, the T.S. clearly crossed the line and should be fired. If the ponytail was innaprpriate or against the rules, the parents should have been notified, and those rules should have been madeknown right from the start. Somehow, I doubt that this was a school rule.

I'll be curious to see how the people who clamour for parents' right to withdraw their kids from the classroom every time words like gay or evolution are mentioned will react to this ooone.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:56 AM

That being said, the T.S. clearly crossed the line and should be fired. If the ponytail was innaprpriate or against the rules, the parents should have been notified, and those rules should have been madeknown right from the start.


It wasn't a ponytail; it was his bangs, which the TA saw were hampering the kid's vision. We've sunk to new lows if the definitions of assault and violation now include trimming some brat's bangs so he can see properly. However, I doubt this is really about the hair; that, I suspect, is just serving as a convenient doorway for another FNs person to run out and cry victim, with the ubiquitous cash payments to follow in return. Had the kid not been aboriginal, this would never have made even a ripple.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:17 AM

If that teacher had tried to cut my hair, they would have been stabbed with their scissors.
I had a hell of a temper as a kid (and possibly still do), and I consider someone cutting my hair as an assault on me.

Just because you don't like a hair style or how someone looks doesn't give you any right to go change it yourself.

How would you like it if someone came up to you and started cutting your hair? How about if someone did it to your wife or child?
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:26 AM

How would you like it if someone came up to you and started cutting your hair? How about if someone did it to your wife or child?


This is a child we're talking about, not an adult. If it were my child who had his too-long bangs cut, I'd probably tell him I was happy with the improvement.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:33 AM

So in this case you happen to agree with the change made, but what if the TA did something to your kid that you did not agree with? What if they cut the hair into a mullet or shaved a swastika in his head?
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:39 AM

So in this case you happen to agree with the change made, but what if the TA did something to your kid that you did not agree with? What if they cut the hair into a mullet or shaved a swastika in his head?


As there's no rational reason for doing such a thing, my reaction would be quite different.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:43 AM

Rational or not, the TA should go through the correct channels. If they wanted the hair cut, they can ask you (the parent) - not do it them self.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 11:49 AM

Rational or not, the TA should go through the correct channels. If they wanted the hair cut, they can ask you (the parent) - not do it them self.


The TA could have, yes. And perhaps she did, and got no response. But having taken it upon herself to cut the hair so the kid could see rightly hardly warrants a suspension and an assault charge.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:28 PM

I saw this news story and it is completely outrageous.
As a parent, I can tell you if someone cut my minor childs hair, against his/her will, especially a person in a position of authority and trust, there would be hell to pay.

Did the parent consent. NO
It was an outrageous abuse on the part of the teacher's aide!
The parent has every right to be upset.
Oh and the teacher's aide, should be admonished at the very least, taught some kind of proper way of dealing with children, because clearly the TA hasn't a clue.

And since it is not an assault, I say, cut the TA hair, hold her down and cut. Let's see if that person interprets it as an assault against her person.

When my child was younger, she was a slow eater, the lunch room supervisor, told her eating so slow meant she was stupid.
OH really?
Wanna know how fast I was at the school?
Sitting and waiting????

Talked to the teacher, and dammit that ignoramus apologized to my kid.

btw: my kid graduated with honours and was valedictorian.:)

Edited by kuzadd, 23 May 2009 - 03:33 PM.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 04:31 PM

It wasn't a ponytail; it was his bangs, which the TA saw were hampering the kid's vision. We've sunk to new lows if the definitions of assault and violation now include trimming some brat's bangs so he can see properly. However, I doubt this is really about the hair; that, I suspect, is just serving as a convenient doorway for another FNs person to run out and cry victim, with the ubiquitous cash payments to follow in return. Had the kid not been aboriginal, this would never have made even a ripple.

Or maybe if the kid hasn't been Aboriginal the TA would not have done this.

The TA overstepped her authority. Period...



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