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[Alta4ever]

Federal liberals responsible for shortage of flu vaccine

Calgary HeraldNovember 5, 2009Comments (12)
In politics, as in the courtroom, it is wise to never ask a question unless you know the answer. A seasoned politician like Dr. Carolyn Bennett, the Liberal health critic, should know this. Bennett, a medical doctor, was the minister of state for public health in the Paul Martin government and a person who should know the history of flu vaccination contracts in Canada.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Federal+liberals+responsible+shortage+vaccine/2186672/story.html

Just thought it should be seen.

[jdobbin]

Just thought it should be seen.

You do realize that contract was for seasonal flu vaccine.

A new contract negotiation was set up for the H1N1 vaccine.

Edited by jdobbin, 05 November 2009 - 08:36 PM.

[Alta4ever]

You do realize that contract was for seasonal flu vaccine.

A new contract was set up for the H1N1 vaccine.

So do i beleive you who is direct contradiction to the Calgary Herald and has provided no proof, or the Calgary Herald...I go with the Herald

[Smallc]

They're no more responsible than the Conservatives are.

[jdobbin]

So do i beleive you who is direct contradiction to the Calgary Herald and has provided no proof, or the Calgary Herald...I go with the Herald

It is on the government's website:

The regular flu virus vaccine proceeded as usual.

The H1N1 had to go through additional negotiations that the regular flu vaccine didn't. While the contract was for one company, the negotiations for this part of the contract were new.

In accordance with the terms of the longstanding contract, the Government of Canada is in discussions with GSK about the development and production of the H1N1 vaccine. After the safety testing and preliminary development work is completed, the production process for the H1N1 vaccine will take about 12 weeks. In the meantime, GSK is working through potential production process issues by developing trial vaccines.

In other words, when Carolyn Bennett asked about the terms of this contract, it was a legitimate question in regards the development of this vaccine.

Edited by jdobbin, 05 November 2009 - 08:35 PM.

[Alta4ever]

It is on the government's website:

The regular flu virus vaccine proceeded as usual.

The H1N1 had to go through additional negotiations that the regular flu vaccine didn't. While the contract was for one company, the negotiations for this part of the contract were new.



In other words, when Carolyn Bennett asked about the terms of this contract, it was a legitimate question in regards the development of this vaccine.

it says nothing of the sort
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/info_vaccine_vaccin-eng.php

[Alta4ever]

The contract was awarded to Shire BioChem, a company that gave $57,000 to the Liberal Party in 2001. The company has since been bought out by GSK, but the contract remained valid since it secured the Ste. Foy vaccine production facility.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091104/vaccine_antigen_091104/20091104?hub=

[jdobbin]

it says nothing of the sort

Afraid it does.

* The seasonal flu shot is not made to protect against the H1N1 flu virus..
* It is expected that the vaccines will be administered separately, at least a few weeks apart.

[jdobbin]

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091104/vaccine_antigen_091104/20091104?hub=

Think I already said that H1N1 negotiations are separate.

[Alta4ever]

Afraid it does.

your quote has nothing to do with vaccine supply contract.

[Alta4ever]

Think I already said that H1N1 negotiations are separate.

And have provided no proof of it.

[Alta4ever]

your quote has nothing to do with vaccine supply contract.

You are conradiction of several media outlets now, I think Macleans also has a piece on this.

[jdobbin]

your quote has nothing to do with vaccine supply contract.

Afraid it does.

In any event, the Tories renegotiated the contract in 2007.

No "oops here. Indeed Dr. Carolyn Bennett does know better. She was asking about the contract re-negotiated by the Conservatives in 2007: The 2001 vaccine supply contract - signed by the Liberal government - ensured that there would be a domestic supply of vaccine in case of a pandemic. The contract was not exclusive and has been made public. The Canadian government was free to purchase from other suppliers. That was the point: capture a domestic supply, but give the government flexibility to act in a crisis. The Conservatives renegotiated the agreement in 2007, but details have not been released. The 2004 Liberal Pandemic Plan called for using multiple suppliers to ensure a reliable source. The Conservatives ignored this recommendation. Chief Public Health Officer Dr. David Butler-Jones confirmed Tuesday that the federal government could order more vaccine from other suppliers. The decision of the govt to instruct GSK to halt production on the adjuvanted vaccine in order to make some non-adjuvanted for pregnant women is what has caused the shortages this week

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[jdobbin]

You are conradiction of several media outlets now, I think Macleans also has a piece on this.

You are contradicted by the government website and by the fact that the Tories renegotiated the contract in 2007.

[Alta4ever]

Afraid it does.

In any event, the Tories renegotiated the contract in 2007.

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tsk tsk no link

but here is the globes take

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/taking-aim-at-the-gun-registry/article1350693/