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#76 betsy

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 05:26 AM

Why did I get cancer? Why do innocent babies die? Why is there so much suffering? Why? Why? Why?....all the usual why-nings. :)

God is...G O D. HE doesn't have to answer or explain HIMSELF to mere mortals that HE created! To demand an explanation from God is to show that one doesn't truly comprehend the meaning/concept of a God.

HE said: "Your ways are not MY ways. Your thoughts are not MY thoughts."


There are numerous reasons why people do not believe....or turn away from their belief in God (apostasy). The most obvious reason so far that I read in this forum is that....God does not conform to their idea of what a god should be like. They refuse to believe because God did not do....or did not behave in such a way that they think God should.
And God demands so much faith....that makes it almost impossible to enjoy all these earthly and wordly pleasures.
That makes self-indulgence takes a good backseat and becomes almost nil if one puts God ahead of everything else. To humbly accept that we were created for HIS pleasure. And with all humility....accept that the only real purpose in life is to love, honor and obey HIM.
Of course, I speak as a believer.


The following is an excerpt taken from a post in the other thread, "Rejoice on this day!"


In June 1998 the world’s leading experts in the field of cosmology and astronomy, including such giants as Stephen Hawking, attended a conference of scientists, theologians, and others at the University of California at Berkeley. The subject of the conference was the conflict and convergence between science and religion.

Two questions attracted considerable attention among participants:

1. Is there enough evidence to warrant belief in God?
2. Is there something to the claims of anthropic cosmological principles that warrants an in-depth study?

The answer to both questions was yes.


Edited by betsy, 12 September 2010 - 05:34 AM.


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Posted 12 September 2010 - 05:49 AM

HE doesn't have to answer or explain HIMSELF to mere mortals that HE created! To demand an explanation from God is to show that one doesn't truly comprehend the meaning/concept of a God.

HE said: "Your ways are not MY ways. Your thoughts are not MY thoughts."


...etc


So how is Mrs God these days? Does she do the dishes? Mop the floors?

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 06:05 AM

And on a lighter note, what does science say these days about.....

Wine?

Fish?

Berries?

Olive Oil?

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 07:38 AM

so two million men women children and babies get crushed in Haiti even though this all powerful god with of a twitch of his eyebrow could prevent it...your god sounds like a psychopath, or more likely there is no god...


The thinking behind this is often that God created the universe, and just lets it unfold as it should. It's up to humans to make the best of their world.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 06:36 PM

The thinking behind this is often that God created the universe, and just lets it unfold as it should. It's up to humans to make the best of their world.

that's a cop out

this is the omnipotent god that dishes out miracles left and right on a whim but now you say he can't be bothered...first it cares for us then it doesn't give a fig?...such a fantastic deity that loves us so much it let's innocents perish because it can't be bothered to twitch it's big toe, wow that's some god you've there...
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 06:42 PM

that's a cop out

this is the omnipotent god that dishes out miracles left and right on a whim but now you say he can't be bothered...first it cares for us then it doesn't give a fig?...such a fantastic deity that loves us so much it let's innocents perish because it can't be bothered to twitch it's big toe, wow that's some god you've there...


Don't shoot the messenger... these are greater philosophers than you and I who came up with this...

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 06:49 PM

Don't shoot the messenger... these are greater philosophers than you and I who came up with this...


Who had no concept of what a quasar is...or a light year...or a Cepheid variable...or a lenticular galaxy...etc.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 06:53 PM

Who had no concept of what a quasar is...or a light year...or a Cepheid variable...or a lenticular galaxy...etc.


Or a Wookie.... not that you need to know what those things are to discuss philosophy.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 06:58 PM

Or a Wookie.... not that you need to know what those things are to discuss philosophy.


As mentioned in one of these God threads, new stars and planets are being formed right now. Religious types should be aware that their dear deity has chosen "Start New Game" from the menu choices.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 07:22 PM

As mentioned in one of these God threads, new stars and planets are being formed right now. Religious types should be aware that their dear deity has chosen "Start New Game" from the menu choices.


And what do you think the effect of that knowledge should be on religious philosophy ? I can't think how it would change anything, myself.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 07:27 PM

And what do you think the effect of that knowledge should be on religious philosophy ? I can't think how it would change anything, myself.


I doubt religious types consider new star and planet formation, not only in our own galaxy but billions upon billions of others. Too much information!

Edited by DogOnPorch, 12 September 2010 - 07:27 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 10:18 PM

Don't shoot the messenger... these are greater philosophers than you and I who came up with this...

philosophers thought's of the past were based the lack of scientific information of the time and an assumtion there was a god...today a belief in god requires a suspension of logic and reality and a great deal of self delusion...

Edited by wyly, 12 September 2010 - 10:26 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 11:12 PM

God didn't create us, God is us.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 04:17 AM

As mentioned in one of these God threads, new stars and planets are being formed right now. Religious types should be aware that their dear deity has chosen "Start New Game" from the menu choices.



:)

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:52 AM

And on a lighter note, what does science say these days about.....

Wine?

Fish?

Berries?

Olive Oil?


I know what a chef says about those items.
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