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[Oleg Bach]

Looks like the terrorists have finally won. America and the rest of the world is terrified of offending Islam..the Iman in New York knows we are terrified - and he most certainly threatens a backlash of violence from the so-called Islamic "extremists" (which is all of them)

I have had private conversations with Islamics..they tell me they are here to take over and displace Christondom - and all other off shoots of ancient Judean tradion.. So here we are all poltically correct and tolerant of the up-coming fact of being screwed in the ass by Islam..in time I guess we will all be prostrate and bending over sniffing the other guys ass in submission to this ultra from of socialism...of facism - everything we have fought for for 2000 years is now about to be forfeit by some lieing weasils that are "tolerant" "welspoken" and not "extreme" - BULLSHIT!


We must stand our ground and protect our home - our traditions - ourselves - and fight hard against these imposters who are all infidels who say "god is great" Yet they murder in the name of God - and in doing so are saying god is not great and needs the help of a muslim fanatic to do the killing of the non-compliant..


SHAME ON AMERICA AND THE PHAGOTIZED STATE OF AFFAIRS ------------------ARE WE NOT MEN?

[Bonam]

There is no "our faith". We are not the civilization of Christendom, not any more. The cultural conflict, to the extent that one exists, is between religious fanaticism and secularism. The only thing better about Christianity than Islam is that a substantially smaller proportion of its followers are willing to commit violence to achieve their religious ends. That is, Christianity has mostly been tamed and made compatible with a secular civilization.

You are definitely right that we need to "stand our ground and protect our home - our traditions - ourselves - and fight hard against these imposters who are all infidels who say "god is great" Yet they murder in the name of God". However, the ground we need to stand, the home we need to protect, and the traditions we need to preserve are not those of Christianity, but those of freedom and democracy.

[eyeball]

There is no "our faith". We are not the civilization of Christendom, not any more. The cultural conflict, to the extent that one exists, is between religious fanaticism and secularism.

No it isn't. Islamic religious fanaticism is a reaction to our being the civilization of economic domination and the apostate rulers we've propped up to help achieve that.

The only thing better about Christianity than Islam is that a substantially smaller proportion of its followers are willing to commit violence to achieve their religious ends. That is, Christianity has mostly been tamed and made compatible with a secular civilization.

You are definitely right that we need to "stand our ground and protect our home - our traditions - ourselves - and fight hard against these imposters who are all infidels who say "god is great" Yet they murder in the name of God". However, the ground we need to stand, the home we need to protect, and the traditions we need to preserve are not those of Christianity, but those of freedom and democracy.

Which we've tried to achieve by propping up some really nasty bloodthirsty murderous regimes. There is no difference between murdering in the name of God or freedom and democracy.

Christianity notwithstanding, there seems to be no shortage of followers of freedom and democracy who are willing to commit violence to achieve their economic ends. I guess it's just a quirky irony that many of these also call themselves Christians.

[wyly]

No it isn't. Islamic religious fanaticism is a reaction to our being the civilization of economic domination and the apostate rulers we've propped up to help achieve that.


Which we've tried to achieve by propping up some really nasty bloodthirsty murderous regimes. There is no difference between murdering in the name of God or freedom and democracy.

Christianity notwithstanding, there seems to be no shortage of followers of freedom and democracy who are willing to commit violence to achieve their economic ends. I guess it's just a quirky irony that many of these also call themselves Christians.

which is why I'm all in favour of banishing any reference to sky gods from government and all public life...I don't need any religious fanatics fucking up my country/life mulsim or christian or anything else...pray to the tree nome or the easter bunny for all I care just leave the rest of us alone to live our lives as we want...

[dre]

Looks like the terrorists have finally won. America and the rest of the world is terrified of offending Islam..the Iman in New York knows we are terrified - and he most certainly threatens a backlash of violence from the so-called Islamic "extremists" (which is all of them)

I have had private conversations with Islamics..they tell me they are here to take over and displace Christondom - and all other off shoots of ancient Judean tradion.. So here we are all poltically correct and tolerant of the up-coming fact of being screwed in the ass by Islam..in time I guess we will all be prostrate and bending over sniffing the other guys ass in submission to this ultra from of socialism...of facism - everything we have fought for for 2000 years is now about to be forfeit by some lieing weasils that are "tolerant" "welspoken" and not "extreme" - BULLSHIT!


We must stand our ground and protect our home - our traditions - ourselves - and fight hard against these imposters who are all infidels who say "god is great" Yet they murder in the name of God - and in doing so are saying god is not great and needs the help of a muslim fanatic to do the killing of the non-compliant..


SHAME ON AMERICA AND THE PHAGOTIZED STATE OF AFFAIRS ------------------ARE WE NOT MEN?

Hittin the sauce early today huh?

[Moonlight Graham]

...the Iman in New York knows we are terrified - and he most certainly threatens a backlash of violence from the so-called Islamic "extremists" (which is all of them)

1) If you're referring to his CNN interview with the Imam, he didn't "threaten" anything.

2) So you're saying all 1.5 billion Muslims in the world are "extremists"? That's 1/4 of the global population...all extremists? All radical fundies?

I have had private conversations with Islamics..

2 guys on a bus doesn't = all Muslims.

Edited by Moonlight Graham, 09 September 2010 - 08:08 PM.

[GostHacked]

Christianity notwithstanding, there seems to be no shortage of followers of freedom and democracy who are willing to commit violence to achieve their economic ends. I guess it's just a quirky irony that many of these also call themselves Christians.

For the US, it is One nation under God, and in Canada, it's God keep our land glorious and free'.

Hard to say we are not Christian nations when that kind of stuff is in our national anthems or pledge of allegiance. We may think we are secular, but it the documents we still follow and act like Christian nations whether we like it or not, or know it or not.

[Oleg Bach]

Hittin the sauce early today huh?

Thanks but I don't like being discredited with this common and useless rhetoric...the "sauce" as you put it is not a prime part of my life - I am surprised you did not attempt to marginalize me with the liberal "you have not took your meds" bit...either approach me with respect and something useful to say - as Ghandi said "it is a small man that attempts to gain status though the belittlment of others" - to para pharse - now off I go to perhaps answer a serious person with something to contribute.

[Oleg Bach]

For the US, it is One nation under God, and in Canada, it's God keep our land glorious and free'.

Hard to say we are not Christian nations when that kind of stuff is in our national anthems or pledge of allegiance. We may think we are secular, but it the documents we still follow and act like Christian nations whether we like it or not, or know it or not.

'i have not come to save the whole flock but to find and retrieve the one sheep that has fallen into the pit" - In other words Christianity was about the sacred force that is the individual - that one person is worth a million and a million one...islam like socialism destroys the one non-compliant indiviual even if he or she have great gifts to bring to the world..It is a legion of insects - we are not animals or insects// we a slightly lower than the angels - and I expect us to behave as such and not like animals.................In other words - real Chrisitianity brought about class...and America has no class - we are now dirt that Islam will sweep aside....

[Oleg Bach]

For the US, it is One nation under God, and in Canada, it's God keep our land glorious and free'.

Hard to say we are not Christian nations when that kind of stuff is in our national anthems or pledge of allegiance. We may think we are secular, but it the documents we still follow and act like Christian nations whether we like it or not, or know it or not.

Our code of rights has the spirit and pre-amble that states - The rule of law and the supremecy of GOD ........I spoke on this once to one of Canada's most powerful lawyers - and the reason that phrase is in there as well as "in God we trust" - is as he said..."it is not a case of believing in God - but a case of bringing the participants into a state of "higher mindedness" - This ensures that one person does not dictate - and attempt to take the place of GOD - The problem with Islam is that there are many leaders who like to play God and give orders to kill as if God has instructed them personally to do so...I will make it simple...


Now listen up...God is almighty - it created good as well as evil...God or goodness has been birthing humans and killing humans for eons through natural law...when a Jew - Chrisitan or Islamic kill in the name of God...what they are saying is..


THAT GOD IS WEAK AND NEEDS HUMAN HELP - this is contrary to the term all mighty - and anyone who adheres to being God's little helper in the act of murder is a person who is far from fidelity - from the truth - so extremist Islamics are acutally infidels.

[grainfedprairieboy]

[Oleg Bach]

Christianity never really reached the modern or ancient christian world..It was originally a faith based on the embracing of reality (truth) and a sense of individuality where no one was your real boss other than goodness (God) - Muslims - Jew - or so called Christians that murder..are not good - hence not of God..so all religion can kiss my ancient Christian ass.

[bloodyminded]

Unfortunately, aside from the poetic license invoked ("ie "it's on videotape") this is more or less true. Also unfortunately, this places the book in exactly the same company as certain other major "holy" books.

[Oleg Bach]

Secularism does not provide faith or fearlessness - Look at the Chilean miners that just rose from the dead..It was faith that carried that nation through and brough success - our corporate types are such money grubbing power mongering materialists that they fear Islam and insist on making war with this ancient competator....shame on us....that we let our rich send our son's to die fighting what is not worth a single drop of blood - Islam is the oldest and most orgainized corporation on earth - and that is why our corporates effect government and insist on fighting the competition..time for our rich and powerful to have some faith..in more than just material power and the power they gain in the artificial world though deception and the generation of fear - we all fear being poor and homeless - and the corporate powers like to place dying old men on heating grates to remind us of THEIR POWER - and the terrorism they inflict on our domestic populace.

[The_Squid]

It was faith that carried that nation through and brough success

So it is your contention that aetheist miners would have died?