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[Saipan]

Let me see if I can sum this up.

If you a believer, shout it from the rooftops and start 8 Billion threads on internet forums.

If you are an Atheist, thats fine.... but shut the hell up and keep your opinion to yourself.

...like Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin said...

[betsy]

To them it is a business to suck all the money they can out of the sheeple who have nothing better to dio with their time than to spend money on religious poppycock these guys are good at spewing. If they manage to get a few of the better looking and more gullible girls ( or boys)into bed --- hey, it's one of the perks of the business along with the white Caddys and the presidential suites the gullible buy for them.
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Did I say all preachers or priests are doing all these for God? I'm not going to go about naming anybody who do so but some do get into the BUSINESS of preaching. For money. Or for other more sinister purposes that the "authority" of the position can use.

Just like a pedophile would work as a teacher, or a coach, or a priest or a pervert....to get access to children, gullible women, young lads....

Why do I keep saying you've got to read, study and understand the Bible for yourself. If you do, you'd know that Christ repeatedly warned us about those who will use His name.
You'd understand why He mostly lambasted the Pharisees - the priests/clergy of that time - in practically every Book there is in the New Testament for their hypocrisy?

You've got to know when you're being victimized or taken for a ride! The onus is on you to be careful!

What about the harm done to the kids that don't have enuf to eat because their parents are shamed into giving the traveling sideshow preacher the grocery money so that the neighbors won't look badly at them for being stingy to god.

You'd have to ask the parents that!

Something's terribly wrong with one's priorities in life if you'd maximize your credits cards
to keep up with the Jones' - to show your neighbors that certainly being stingy to yourelf is not in your vocabulary!

What's the difference? It's all for show!

[WIP]

You'd have to ask the parents that!

Something's terribly wrong with one's priorities in life if you'd maximize your credits cards
to keep up with the Jones' - to show your neighbors that certainly being stingy to yourelf is not in your vocabulary!

What's the difference? It's all for show!

Betsy, you're just getting around to what is most disgusting and toxic about modern evangelical Christianity -- it has turned centuries of Christian doctrine on its head and become the spiritual justification for materialism and greed. The modern evangelical worships accumulation of wealth as a sign of blessing from the divine, and heaps scorn on the poor, somehow leapfrogging all of the bible verses condemning the rich and giving aid to the poor, just to get to that Parable of the Talents - reinterpreted as an economic parable. As long as the billionaire gives his tithes -- just like the Pharisees you mentioned earlier, he is now the pillar of the Christian community, lauded for his public show of piety, and his wealth and ability to give vast sums of money to the church....which would pretty much make them the modern day pharisees!

It seems that the modern evangelicals have created a religion to provide them with some sort of cheap, easy spiritual fix on Sunday, until they go back to their suburban silos and live the rest of the week like greedy, unconcerned libertarians....which would explain that strange partnership the political Christian Right has with the Ayn Rand Objectivists.

[Saipan]

Betsy, you're just getting around to what is most disgusting and toxic about modern evangelical Christianity -- it has turned centuries of Christian doctrine on its head and become the spiritual justification for materialism and greed. The modern evangelical worships accumulation of wealth as a sign of blessing from the divine

Just ask Rev. Al Gore

[betsy]

Betsy, you're just getting around to what is most disgusting and toxic about modern evangelical Christianity -- it has turned centuries of Christian doctrine on its head and become the spiritual justification for materialism and greed. The modern evangelical worships accumulation of wealth as a sign of blessing from the divine, and heaps scorn on the poor, somehow leapfrogging all of the bible verses condemning the rich and giving aid to the poor, just to get to that Parable of the Talents - reinterpreted as an economic parable. As long as the billionaire gives his tithes -- just like the Pharisees you mentioned earlier, he is now the pillar of the Christian community, lauded for his public show of piety, and his wealth and ability to give vast sums of money to the church....which would pretty much make them the modern day pharisees!

It seems that the modern evangelicals have created a religion to provide them with some sort of cheap, easy spiritual fix on Sunday, until they go back to their suburban silos and live the rest of the week like greedy, unconcerned libertarians....which would explain that strange partnership the political Christian Right has with the Ayn Rand Objectivists.

Well WIP, you're focusing on humans. You know what Christ said about the Pharisees and all the hypocrites, and all those who cannot detach themselves from worldly temptations. Lust for worldly treasures and pleasures. The parables touched on these. Numerous times.

What, are we going to use sinning men as a cheap excuse to forsake God? That's pretty lame. It's illogical in fact when those same gripes you have were actually addressed by Christ!

It's only God who'll be judging us in the end.

[Saipan]

it has turned centuries of Christian doctrine on its head and become the spiritual justification for materialism and greed.

Let's replace it with Marxist materialism and greed.

[cybercoma]

It's only God who'll be judging us in the end.

And all of His lapdogs will judge us until then.

[betsy]

And all of His lapdogs will judge us until then.

In that case, you're the one with issues!

Why would it matter what mere humans say about you? Why would you let that bother you?
If they judge you, so what?
Haven't you heard of, "sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me?"

In this world we live in, you're "judged" all the time. From what type of dwelling you live in, to the kinds of furnitures you use, to the brand of soap you lather yourself with, to the extent of caring you show towards the environment - if you use a plastic bag to do your groceries, or extent of your recycling or energy-saving! I hope you've learn to just roll your eyes to those!

Well, if you can't afford a cadillac, you can't afford a cadillac. Even if people who can afford it taunt you for being poor, you've got to learn to deal with "judgements" like that in life. Unless of course you'd rather be in debt to your eyeballs just so you can buy that cadillac.

But that doesn't mean you're rich just because you have a cadillac. Mind you, it doesn't mean that everyone who has a cadillac is rich either. For all you know they're sitting in the same boat as you are....debts to their eyeballs, just so they can say they drive a cadillac.

Edited by betsy, 09 June 2011 - 04:31 PM.

[Saipan]

And all of His lapdogs will judge us until then.

Yep. Bunch of primitive morons have to help Allah the Almighty to do his work, 'cause he's too tired.

[cybercoma]

But that doesn't mean you're rich just because you have a cadillac. Mind you, it doesn't mean that everyone who has a cadillac is rich either. For all you know they're sitting in the same boat as you do....debts to their eyeballs, just so they can say they drive a cadillac.

I swear, the absolutely hilarious part of your posts is that I can't tell if your criticisms are against the non-faithful or the faithful. If the Cadillac is a metaphor for what a person does to try not to be judged by others and if God is the one that will be doing the judging in the end, well.... you piece the metaphor together.

[bloodyminded]

Let's replace it with Marxist materialism and greed.

And here I thought you really liked that old Marxist, the Dalai Lama.

[Saipan]

And here I thought you really liked that old Marxist, the Dalai Lama.

And the Nazi Jew

[betsy]

I swear, the absolutely hilarious part of your posts is that I can't tell if your criticisms are against the non-faithful or the faithful. If the Cadillac is a metaphor for what a person does to try not to be judged by others and if God is the one that will be doing the judging in the end, well.... you piece the metaphor together.

Betsy:
It's only God who'll be judging us in the end.

And all of His lapdogs will judge us until then.

Well, if you can't afford a cadillac, you can't afford a cadillac. Even if people who can afford it taunt you for being poor, you've got to learn to deal with "judgements" like that in life. Unless of course you'd rather be in debt to your eyeballs just so you can buy that cadillac.

But that doesn't mean you're rich just because you have a cadillac. Mind you, it doesn't mean that everyone who has a cadillac is rich either. For all you know they're sitting in the same boat as you are....debts to their eyeballs, just so they can say they drive a cadillac.

It is written, only God can judge (condemnation). Therefore, if we condemn you, we actually just might end up being in trouble ourselves before the eyes of God....for we should know better.

[bloodyminded]

And the Nazi Jew

If you're continuing to cast doubt upon the Dalai Lama's Marxism and socialism, then you believe he's a liar. And I have no horse in that race; maybe he is lying. But I doubt it.

[betsy]

What do we really know of Richard Dawkins? He is a biologist. But for all his fame, I don't think he even got a nobel. Is he good at it?
Well how do we know....when all he talks about is faith, and God, and religion! And all he does it seems is chase after priests, and bishops and cardinals...even creationist, Wendy Wright!

Richard Dawkins is not a philosopher

"Philosopher Dr. William Lane Craig speaks on his impression of non-philosopher Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion."

He should go back to his lab!

Edited by betsy, 23 August 2011 - 05:54 PM.