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#61 betsy

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 04:28 PM

A shot to the head for a mass murderer is justice - not vengence.


True.

Especially when he is bent on killing more innocents! We should love our neighbors as much as we love ourselves. If you see your neighbors getting massacred, wouldn't you fight for their lives?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 04:36 PM

Christians are only allowed to kill others after they're born.

"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free and civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as their religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

True.

Especially when he is bent on killing more innocents! We should love our neighbors as much as we love ourselves. If you see your neighbors getting massacred, wouldn't you fight for their lives?

Exactly. That's why Hardner's interpretation of things is asinine. He's basically equating being Christian with being a pacifist. Apparently that's Bill Maher "nailing it." :lol:

The ignorance is unbelievable.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:25 PM

The ignorance is unbelievable.

Take it up with Christ. They're his teachings.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:41 PM

True.

Especially when he is bent on killing more innocents! We should love our neighbors as much as we love ourselves. If you see your neighbors getting massacred, wouldn't you fight for their lives?


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:41 PM

[quote name='Michael Hardner' date='19 May 2011 - 04:23 PM' timestamp='1305847416' post='673773'His interpretation of the bible is to follow the word of Jesus as quoted. I wouldn't even call it an interpretation.[/quote]It was a metaphor. Metaphors require interpretation. His literal reading is as brain dead as those who say the earth is 6000 years old. The fact that some Christians might agree with his interpretation does not mean he can claim that all Christians should think the same.

Edited by TimG, 19 May 2011 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:46 PM

I could use the Coles Notes on this thread.

"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free and civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as their religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:00 PM

Take it up with Christ. They're his teachings.


Exactly!
"Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice, without constraint." - Alexander Hamilton

"Did you know that today 27,000 children will die of preventable diseases such as diarrhea, measles, and malnutrition? That's the same as if an airplane full of children crashed every 16 minutes, killing everyone onboard." - Aug. 2005 edition of 'Warcry', official magazine of the Salvation Army

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:06 PM

I could use the Coles Notes on this thread.

Summary: people who have nothing but contempt for Christians call Christians hypocrites for agreeing with them. It is a trip into the twilight zone.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:33 PM

Mark this day down folks....

I'm in rare agreement with The Professor...


Now I have to go punish myself for agreeing with The Professor...

OMG, clearly the end of the world is nigh!

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:52 PM

Rejoicing in the death of a murderer is not exactly a Christian thing to do. But that does not mean, bad people should be given free reign to continue doing bad things. Bad people need to be stopped, and doing this is a grim and sombre task. Once done, we should only feel pleased that the bastard is gone, but not at the price we had to pay in order to do it. Thou shalt not kill is an ideological statement, without conditions. It may not be realistic to uphold it in all circumstances, that is the nature of the "beast". See, there's our ideals, and there's the problems that reality brings to us, when we are directly involved and have no choice but to act.

I, like you am fortunate. I was not directly involved and did not have to act. Therefore it's easy for me to sit on the fence and say, OBL was an evil man and was killed by other evil men. Evil, not because of the things they are forced to do in dire circumstances, but because of the things they chose to do by their own free will.

Edited by Sir Bandelot, 19 May 2011 - 09:54 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:10 PM

Exactly. That's why Hardner's interpretation of things is asinine. He's basically equating being Christian with being a pacifist. Apparently that's Bill Maher "nailing it." :lol:

The ignorance is unbelievable.


Well hold on... you dont really have to be a pacifist to believe its wrong to execute an unarmed prisoner. Thats actually a pretty main-stream belief.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 12:01 AM

Well hold on... you dont really have to be a pacifist to believe its wrong to execute an unarmed prisoner. Thats actually a pretty main-stream belief.

If Maher made that argument he would have a point to make. The trouble is he did not. He said he is ok with the murdering unarmed prisoner thing and went on to criticize Christians who agreed with him. It is an absurd argument.

Edited by TimG, 20 May 2011 - 12:01 AM.


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 03:38 AM

Rejoicing in the death of a murderer is not exactly a Christian thing to do.


Yes. I don't think rejoicing and celebrating his death is right.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 03:42 AM

Well hold on... you dont really have to be a pacifist to believe its wrong to execute an unarmed prisoner. Thats actually a pretty main-stream belief.



These are soldiers who not only have the go signal to shoot-to-kill.....but they're also humans nursing perhaps deep rage over the killings of hundreds in 9/11 and other attacks in the world.

Well I do hope (for Bin Laden's sake) that he's truly dead. I'm not a theory conspiracy advocate.....but since we didn't see the body....I can't help but wonder if he's not being held somewhere alive.....and getting tortured.



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