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[eyeball]

The idea of homogenous Muslim neighborhoods isn't quite the "mosaic" we multicultural-loving Canadians were sold on, is it?

I don't think homogenous ethnic enclaves in our cities is a good idea. People become Canadianized by mixing amongst Canadians.

-k

I agree, but I am starting to lean towards separate enclaves and laws and such for right and left wingers.

I mean, you people are like...from Mars or something. I've lived amongst you all my life but I feel more alienated with just about every turn of the news cycle.

[M.Dancer]

Uh...right...

If someone choses to opt out of the public school system they should get a tax break for doing so???

Good luck with that...

Well, maybe not a tax break....how about a taxable grant equal to what the child would receive in the state controlled schools?

Either way...no one should have golden handcuffs placed on them for the decisions they make about their children's education...

[Jack Weber]

Well, maybe not a tax break....how about a taxable grant equal to what the child would receive in the state controlled schools?

Either way...no one should have golden handcuffs placed on them for the decisions they make about their children's education...

Uh...No...

If you want to opt out,that's your perogative...

But my tax dollars should not go to fund the choice you make for your childrens education...And a grant is giving money away...

[M.Dancer]

But my tax dollars should not go to fund the choice you make for your childrens education...And a grant is giving money away...

Why not? My tax dollars go to fund choices other parents make...as long as it the state sanctioned choice.

Where there are alternatives, the government should nurture those alternatives to reduce the strain on the system. As it is the TDPSB is doing what it can to stay above mediocre...parents who who something else should not be penalized by being forced to pay twice.

[treehugger]

I thought pray in schools was removed because it did not cover all religions, along with many other things that have been removed....so why is this case any different.

ONLY CHRISTIAN PRAYER WAS REMOVED WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS CANADIAN LIKE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. so typical and disgusting!
Canadians have to step back and let foreigners have the rein!

[bloodyminded]

ONLY CHRISTIAN PRAYER WAS REMOVED WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS CANADIAN LIKE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. so typical and disgusting!
Canadians have to step back and let foreigners have the rein!

Who, exactly, are these "foreigners"?

[AnOpenMind]

What I feel is instead of fighting the muslims against their right to pray, why don't the other religions fight for THEIR right to pray instead of trying taking someone elses.

For the comment about the muslim child saying 'my feet are cleaner than your face', obviously comes from a hopefully still growing mind and some ignorance to go along. You can't tell me kids of the same religion don't say ruder things to each other?

We need to open our minds and not just accept the similarities of people but the differences; which is the most important. I have Muslim, Jewish, Athiest, Hindu, Christian friends that we all help each other understand how they view religion. I might not agree even 50% of the time but in this short life who cares how they want to live their lives? as long as they respect me my religion, actually even if the individual didn't respect my religion, I wouldn't have a problem because of the fact you don't know every individual person in this world. There are bad apples in every religion and no one can tell me otherwise.

Respect each other and Live.

- A Muslim

[Shakeyhands]

I thought pray in schools was removed because it did not cover all religions, along with many other things that have been removed....so why is this case any different.

Ummm... because they don't force people of other faiths or no faith to attend?

[Sir Bandelot]

The idea of homogenous Muslim neighborhoods isn't quite the "mosaic" we multicultural-loving Canadians were sold on, is it?

I don't think homogenous ethnic enclaves in our cities is a good idea. People become Canadianized by mixing amongst Canadians.

-k

I agree but then, we have such things as "Chinatown", "Little Italy", places like that.

[Machjo]

ONLY CHRISTIAN PRAYER WAS REMOVED WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS CANADIAN LIKE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. so typical and disgusting!
Canadians have to step back and let foreigners have the rein!

i don't see how we can determine a person's place of birth based on his religion. I've met Arab and Chinese Christians, Salish, Innu, and Mohawk Baha'is and even an Algonquin Muslim.

I don't see how adopting a religion suddenly makes one a foreigner. By the same standard, does an indigenous North American who adopts the Christian faith suddenly become a foreigner?

[kimmy]

The details: I was at Yonge-Dundas Square with my nine-year-old son. We ate pizza. We drank bubble tea. And I used my new Canon camera to take photos of this neon shrine.

Suddenly, a woman wearing a hijab ran toward me. She was part of a group that included two women wearing full face-covering burkas. She was screaming: “We are Muslim! You do not take pictures of us!” (Odd. I can’t find the “no photos” rule in the Qur’an.)

I informed the lady I was in a public square in a democracy. I can actually take pictures of whomever I please.

And then: Ka-pow! Her fist collided with my face. Worse, she almost knocked my new camera from my hands.

My son and I were then surrounded by a mob of about 20 people, many of whom were speaking Arabic. One kept demanding I surrender my camera to him.

It was surreal. Was I in Toronto — or Riyadh?

(...)

The officer interrogated the woman. She was still hysterical. Good. The constable would encounter firsthand what I had been forced to deal with earlier.

The cop walked back to me. No charges would be laid, he said, because he believed the woman’s story — namely, she was merely trying to knock the camera out of my hands.

Got that? Apparently, attempted property damage is OK. If a face gets in the way of a would-be vandalizing fist... hey, accidents happen.

The Syrian eyewitnesses were speechless. I continued to plead my case.

Toronto Police cruisers are emblazoned with the slogan, “To serve and protect”. But increasingly, the unofficial slogan seems closer to, “F.I.D.O.” (“Forget It; Drive On.”)

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/02/yonge-dundas-smackdown



-k

[dre]

The idea of homogenous Muslim neighborhoods isn't quite the "mosaic" we multicultural-loving Canadians were sold on, is it?

I don't think homogenous ethnic enclaves in our cities is a good idea. People become Canadianized by mixing amongst Canadians.

-k

I don't think homogenous ethnic enclaves in our cities is a good idea. People become Canadianized by mixing amongst Canadians.

I don't think homogenous ethnic enclaves in our cities is a good idea.

Trying to prevent them would be a WAY worse idea. Its pretty hard to stop people with common traits from clustering together in a free society if they choose. We have always had ethnic neighborhoods... china towns, irish neighborhoods, italian neighborhoods, asian neighborhoods.

Doesnt seem like a big deal to me.

[Oleg Bach]

The question and only question in my mind is would a similar allowance be made for christians, jews, mormans, scientologists, jevoha's eye witnesses.....

I rather doubt it

It is either a secularist public school system or it is not. Muslims are just more aggressive and understand that our liberal democracy is a weak concept - so they just give us a push and we kindly and most politely in the great Canadian way - comply. The other angle is that within the Muslim community as well as say the new arrivals that are say Orthodox Christians from Ethopia..believe that they are not displacing Canadian relgious rights because in their minds we have no religion - we are all infidels - so what the heck - they just fill the void - the religious power vacume...oh as far as the above writer...they mention "scientologists" - they should have no rights what so ever in allowing them to have influence over our young or naive..they are strickly a fabricated money cult.

[eyeball]

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/02/yonge-dundas-smackdown



-k

The cop walked back to me. No charges would be laid, he said, because he believed the woman’s story — namely, she was merely trying to knock the camera out of my hands.

This is just plain wrong but its the result of cops not doing their jobs properly, not Islamification, whatever the hell that means.

[M.Dancer]

This is just plain wrong but its the result of cops not doing their jobs properly, not Islamification, whatever the hell that means.

And what exactly is the result of the cops not doing their job that would have prevented the assault my the muslim?

Perhaps we need an anti burkha law for them to enforce?