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[waldo]

Really ? I didn't understand that from the video.

wow, just wow! We see less than 10 seconds of the Australian PM offering such an, apparently, extraordinary statement... where the video extract has her saying nothing more than, "and it would also see the Great Barrier Reef threatened by increasing ocean temperature and acidification".

of course, the verbal extract came from a full press conference, where PM Gilliard brought notice that the Australian government has accepted the consensus science of today concerning mankind's affect on climate change, that there is a need for putting public attention on facts, figures and science, that with the government having accepted the word of scientists and their research, given the Australian economy of the day, the government is even more determined to act... on carbon pricing. As she said in closing, "the facts are clear, the science is in... we must move to address carbon pollution by putting a price on carbon."

so... Michael... if Gilliard's full press conference had been shown rather than the actual shlock video, do you think there would have been more... even more... gnashing of teeth and wailing from the MLW usual suspects?

[TimG]

the facts are clear, the science is in... we must move to address carbon pollution by putting a price on carbon

A statement which is clearly nonsense because even if one accepts the science it does not automatically follow that CO2 mitigation is the best strategy. In fact, CO2 mitigation is most certainly a futile strategy and money is better spent elsewhere.

[waldo]

A statement which is clearly nonsense because even if one accepts the science it does not automatically follow that CO2 mitigation is the best strategy. In fact, CO2 mitigation is most certainly a futile strategy and money is better spent elsewhere.

ya, ya... go spin your Adapt-R-Us only position to PM Gilliard and her Australian government - I'm sure they will be most attentive!

[TimG]

ya, ya... go spin your Adapt-R-Us only position to PM Gilliard and her Australian government - I'm sure they will be most attentive!

Well, the Australian public is anxious render its opinion on CO2 mitigation. Things are not looking good for Gillard and the Labour party. The main argument which is resonating with the public is the tax is it hurts the economy and accomplishes nothing.

Edited by TimG, 22 August 2011 - 01:24 AM.

[GostHacked]

I don't know anyone who speaks Australian .. i do hear english spoken with an australian accent.

[Shwa]

Global warming is an issue in Canada. And this video points out its dire and immediate threats. In Canadian terms, PEI and Nova Scotia could be underwater in the next few days.

Nah, the subject of this doesn't belong here. I think you are just whoring for some attention by being a troll.

[Michael Hardner]

so... Michael... if Gilliard's full press conference had been shown rather than the actual shlock video, do you think there would have been more... even more... gnashing of teeth and wailing from the MLW usual suspects?

I think that this video was supposed to be some kind of sarcastic humour, poking fun at AGW. That's fine, and there's nothing much to be said about it.

[BubberMiley]

I think you are just whoring for some attention by being a troll.

Ask him about his dead father.

[Oleg Bach]

Could be my age - but it is either to cold or to hot. Climate change is actually climate disruption or destruction. The earth and nature are pretty powerful and possess a survival instinct that pales compared to our own. Our instincts that govern the need for more comfort - more stuff - more freedom - are STRONG...we just might win the contest with nature and utterly destroy it and come out on top - Just as in Miltons' zaga, mankind will triumph over God and Nature - we will stand and scream like a satanic figure and declare we are GOD - but we will stand on a pile of ashes - shit and all sorts of toxins..we will win this war against God and end up with NOTHING.

[Saipan]

"and it would also see the Great Barrier Reef threatened by increasing ocean temperature and acidification".

It's always "would" and "could". That way no one can ask 'hey where's the global warm up'?

[Oleg Bach]

Ask him about his dead father.

He had a father?

[jbg]

Nah, the subject of this doesn't belong here. I think you are just whoring for some attention by being a troll.

I have been an active member of this board since June 26, 2006. When I start or post in threads, I continue to comment. I don't just post and run, which is what trolls do.

I take Board posting as recreation but I am quite a serious debater. Please retract your accusation, now.

[Black Dog]

I have been an active member of this board since June 26, 2006. When I start or post in threads, I continue to comment. I don't just post and run, which is what trolls do.

So your a persistent troll, then.

[Michael Hardner]

jbg is not a troll by any stretch.

You may not agree with him but he engages in real debate on here - trolls do not.

[Black Dog]

jbg is not a troll by any stretch.

You may not agree with him but he engages in real debate on here - trolls do not.

jbg may or may not be a troll- I think that's a subject for debate-but this thread was not started in the spirit of good faith discussion.