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[Argus]

Just typical Heather Malice LOL
Well, I'm middle-aged but it's not because I eat at McDonalds that I'm not at my 1964 weight. Who the hell cares what McDonalds does, we can all read and decide for ourselves what we want to eat, why blame a fast food joint for a person's poor choices. I like a burger now and then, maybe once a month, so what, it's the in thing to blame McDonalds et al for poor eating choices.

Exactly. There is a certain proportion of people, let's politely call them losers, who don't have any self-discipline. Most of us can have a few beers, go and play a few card games or yank on some one armed bandits for a bit, and eat a burger without becoming an obese alcoholic with a gambling addiction. But some people are weak, and some people will just overdo ANYTHING that can be overdone, be it drugs, alcohol, fast foot, or whatever. Why should the rest of us be punished because of those people?

Personally, I don't eat at McDonalds much any more. I don't like their burgers, ironically. I prefer the ones at Kelseys, even if they are twice as expensive. They have better fries, for that matter.

[kimmy]

You've all missed the point. It is not that capitalism is bad. It is that people who eat at McDonalds are cultureless baboons, and in all likelihood Americans or American sympathizers. The point is, primarily, that Heather Mallick is better than you are.

Other ways in which Heather Mallick is better than you:
-she married a European
-lives in Canada's most urbane and cosmopolitan locale
-fake English accent
-works in academia
-supported by public funds; needn't sully herself with private enterprise or commerce
-...except when attempting to sell books, of course.

If you keep in mind the prime motivating force in Mallick's life-- her shame and self-loathing at having been born in a prairie hick town-- all of her writing can be readily put in its proper context.

-k

[dre]

Clearly the benefits of freedom are lost on the left.

Holy shit. What a mornic platitude.

[dre]

One change I WOULD like to see, is for restaurants to put nutritional information on the menus just like food in grocery stores has. Beyond that... It seems like a stretch to blame Macdonalds for Generation: USELESS being fat, lazy, and stupid.

[Shakeyhands]

Well, I happen to like McDonalds now and again. I sure hope McDonalds survives this "hit" piece unscathed. I sure do hate those people from that Goodless, urbane and cosmopolitan city! They should just shut it. Toronto... Blech!!!!

[Black Dog]

Just typical Heather Malice LOL
Well, I'm middle-aged but it's not because I eat at McDonalds that I'm not at my 1964 weight. Who the hell cares what McDonalds does, we can all read and decide for ourselves what we want to eat, why blame a fast food joint for a person's poor choices. I like a burger now and then, maybe once a month, so what, it's the in thing to blame McDonalds et al for poor eating choices.

Oh so you didn't read the column either?

[Boges]

One change I WOULD like to see, is for restaurants to put nutritional information on the menus just like food in grocery stores has. Beyond that... It seems like a stretch to blame Macdonalds for Generation: USELESS being fat, lazy, and stupid.

I venture to say most people who go to McDonalds throughout the day are working. Go there at 1pm and it's packed. I doubt those are lazy people that spend the rest of the day sitting at home playing their xbox.

Now perhaps they should be a cheapo like me and make a sandwich every night before work. But sometimes I don't feel like it and would prefer not to drop $11+ on something "healthy" even though it's been shown some salads you get at fast food establishments have as many calories as the burgers.

And a lot of times it's mom's who let their kids eat a happy meal and work it off in the jungle gym they have there, so they can get some peace. Sue them!

I don't think anyone who orders a burger thinks it's healthy. But there are plenty worse things to eat. Usually it's around 1,200 - 1,500 calories. Now some will say that's too much but who are you to say? It is if you eat it every day but who really eats McDonald's everyday? And if they do I venture to say they are fat. But is that the vast majority of McDonald's patrons? If it was just fat lazy people that went there I doubt they'd be so successful.

[dre]

I venture to say most people who go to McDonalds throughout the day are working. Go there at 1pm and it's packed. I doubt those are lazy people that spend the rest of the day sitting at home playing their xbox.

Now perhaps they should be a cheapo like me and make a sandwich every night before work. But sometimes I don't feel like it and would prefer not to drop $11+ on something "healthy" even though it's been shown some salads you get at fast food establishments have as many calories as the burgers.

And a lot of times it's mom's who let their kids eat a happy meal and work it off in the jungle gym they have there, so they can get some peace. Sue them!

I don't think anyone who orders a burger thinks it's healthy. But there are plenty worse things to eat. Usually it's around 1,200 - 1,500 calories. Now some will say that's too much but who are you to say? It is if you eat it every day but who really eats McDonald's everyday? And if they do I venture to say they are fat. But is that the vast majority of McDonald's patrons? If it was just fat lazy people that went there I doubt they'd be so successful.

Now some will say that's too much but who are you to say?

Like I said... if its 1500 then put it on the box, and on the menu. The most important part of making good food choices is that the information is disclosed to you.

Restaurants should have the same rules as Grocers.

[Boges]

Like I said... if its 1500 then put it on the box, and on the menu. The most important part of making good food choices is that the information is disclosed to you.

Restaurants should have the same rules as Grocers.

I do believe at McDonalds the calorie count is on the box and on the back of the place mat, I think that's satisfactory.

Do you really want it to be in big bold type on the board?

[scribblet]

Damn - No - not when I want to have a secret munch on one of them LOL

[Bonam]

Like I said... if its 1500 then put it on the box, and on the menu. The most important part of making good food choices is that the information is disclosed to you.

Restaurants should have the same rules as Grocers.

First, nutrition information is already prominently displayed in multiple locations in most fast food establishments. It was certainly there both on the box and on the menu last time I went to a McDonalds.

Second, people who are "fat and lazy" likely won't care or understand the nutrition information anyway. Sad as it may be, it is far outside the intellectual capabilities of many people to comprehend numbers like "1400" and to add them up with other numbers like "500" and evaluate whether the result is greater than or less than a third number such as "2000" on any kind of regular basis.

Third, people who lead a healthy lifestyle can and should eat when they are hungry, until they aren't hungry anymore, and will maintain a stable weight. If you lead a healthy lifestyle, counting your calories is a pointless waste of time. I eat about 2x as much as most people and haven't gained any weight since I was like 18. Then again, I bike to and from work every day and climb a mountain every weekend.

Fact is, much like almost anything else, being fat/obese is a result of one's own choices and actions (except for a very few people who have genetic disorders related to obesity). If you're obese, chances are you have no one to blame but yourself, or, if you're a kid, your parents.

Edited by Bonam, 14 September 2011 - 12:17 AM.

[bloodyminded]

I just want to say that there's nothing wrong with criticizing Mcdonalds...and that doing so doesn't constitute "anti-freedom," as was early posited.

(Some folks evidently are suffering a "the commies are coming!" hangover. Which is a sort of tragicomic delusion.)

Second, Heather Mallick is singularly unimpressive, in my view.

Edited by bloodyminded, 14 September 2011 - 02:42 AM.

[Bonam]

(Some folks evidently are suffering a "the commies are coming!" hangover. Which is a sort of tragicomic delusion.)

The commies ARE coming. Or have you missed the posts by some of our latest commie forum members?

[bloodyminded]

The commies ARE coming. Or have you missed the posts by some of our latest commie forum members?

They're of no consequence. Hell, we can't even accurately condemn China's "communism" anymore (though their totalitarianism remains pretty robust), and there's a lot of noise about Cuban reform as well.

The Red Panickers are so desperate now that they're calling what used to be centrist-conservative notions "socialism."

But they're going to lose. Even the Tea-Partiers don't want to give up Social Security and Medicare, even if their elected leaders do.

The Mixed Economy ideas are winning and are going to win. That's just as it should be.

[Bonam]

The Mixed Economy ideas are winning and are going to win.

Of course they are. But that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of real people whose views really are pretty close to the tenets of communism, and that there ideas and ramblings shouldn't continue to be confronted and rejected in debates.