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[jbg]

Explain how they were nasty jbg? I'm interested.

I asked a supportive question about Steyn's Maclean's article and the HRC persecution and received back the answer "why would I discuss that with you"?

[lukin]

It's disappointing to hear that. However, I'm not going to be his friend, but I will continue to read what he has to say. His latest book is great.

Edited by lukin, 22 September 2011 - 07:34 PM.

[lukin]

I asked a supportive question about Steyn's Maclean's article and the HRC persecution and received back the answer "why would I discuss that with you"?

I understand why you would be upset. In all fairness to Steyn though, with what he was going through with the bogus HRC, I'm sure he was apprehensive about what he said to strangers. There are many people who agree to one's face (not saying that was your intention) then end up stabbing him in the back.

[lukin]

America is not "done"...and certainly not because of a single president. Even if America were to disappear tomorrow, it's still been a very good run. So cry not for America...but what may replace it.

What might replace it is a good question? Short term China...but lack of Chinese females may cause demographic problems (which are currently plaguing spineless Western European countries) in a few generations.

Maybe an Iran/North Korea alliance.

[jbg]

I understand why you would be upset. In all fairness to Steyn though, with what he was going through with the bogus HRC, I'm sure he was apprehensive about what he said to strangers. There are many people who agree to one's face (not saying that was your intention) then end up stabbing him in the back.

I certainly am not a back-stabbing type of person. That should be obvious to anyone who meets me face to face.

I am on their side regarding the HRC's even though I am a lifelong admirer of the many accomplishments of the Arab people, the Palestinians and of PETA.

[Black Dog]

He writes extremely well. Too bad, in person, that he's miserable, nasty and arrogant.

So what you see on paper is what you get in real life, then.

Sadly, this hack has inspired legions of followers somehow even dumber than him.

[Shady]

I am going to say the former. The speakers at the forum in New York City were Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant. Both of them were rather nasty in person when I went to talk to them after their speech. And I am an educated, polite left-winger, largely supporting him on the HRC issues which were the subject of some of the discussion.

I saw Ezra Levant speak at UWO last year. He was nice, respectful and pretty charming. In fact, he had a lot of people who significantly disagree with him, talking to him afterwards, all saying pretty nice things, making jokes etc.

[Shady]

So what you see on paper is what you get in real life, then.

Sadly, this hack has inspired legions of followers somehow even dumber than him.

Sadly, it's the same old song. If you disagree with them, they're dumb. That's acutally pretty dumb in itself.

[Boges]

There are people here saying he's a hack or he's a jerk etc.

Not a lot of people saying that the stuff he's saying is actually wrong.

Edited by Boges, 23 September 2011 - 09:26 AM.

[Pliny]

I certainly am not a back-stabbing type of person. That should be obvious to anyone who meets me face to face.

Then you have to stop describing yourself as a polite, left-winger.

I am on their side regarding the HRC's even though I am a lifelong admirer of the many accomplishments of the Arab people, the Palestinians and of PETA.

Not the generally held view of polite, left-wingers.

[Pliny]

On Mark Steyn:

A fabulous writer that can capture the essence of a concept that are simply vague ideas until he puts them into words and evokes that sense of clarity necessary to a full understanding.

[Pliny]

After reading his op eds, why would I?


So you WERE listening when folks like me were telling you years ago the US was going splat.

Huh...go figure.

Weren't you full of hope and change in 2008?

The US will recover when it realizes how far socialism has crept into it's political system. Obama is helping to bring about that awareness. There may be some weeping and gnashing of teeth in the transition phase when power is being transferred back to the people. It may take a total economic collapse to bring that about but that should be lesson enough to not allow government to run the show just allow it to run and do it's job of keeping the cogs clean.

I think the left believes that society is populated with animals and not humans. Humans have compassion animals and governments don't.

[eyeball]

Weren't you full of hope and change in 2008?

2008 was a good year for me personally and this year was even better. Assuming the Titanic turns in time I should be in pretty good shape. If it doesn't I guess I'll be in the same boat as everyone else.

The US will recover when it realizes how far socialism has crept into it's political system. Obama is helping to bring about that awareness. There may be some weeping and gnashing of teeth in the transition phase when power is being transferred back to the people. It may take a total economic collapse to bring that about but that should be lesson enough to not allow government to run the show just allow it to run and do it's job of keeping the cogs clean.

The lesson I'm hoping for is that we never allow government to run the show without total public awareness of every single thing it does...and I mean really deep souveillance.

I think the left believes that society is populated with animals and not humans. Humans have compassion animals and governments don't.

You really need to give this left right thing a rest. I'm afraid that a total economic collapse will almost certainly result in a violent civil war between the right and left.

You seem pretty confident that the state will be on your side. I guess that's why I'm afraid.

[Black Dog]

There are people here saying he's a hack or he's a jerk etc.

Not a lot of people saying that the stuff he's saying is actually wrong.

Pointing out that Mark Steyn is wrong is like pointing out that the sky is blue or water is wet. It's just a given.

On Mark Steyn:

A fabulous writer that can capture the essence of a concept that are simply vague ideas until he puts them into words and evokes that sense of clarity necessary to a full understanding.

Or more accurately: a writer who takes vague ideas and inflates them through turgid prose to sound meaningful.

The US will recover when it realizes how far socialism has crept into it's political system. Obama is helping to bring about that awareness.

Do tell us more. I really want to hear this.

[Boges]

Pointing out that Mark Steyn is wrong is like pointing out that the sky is blue or water is wet. It's just a given.

Then tell us some of the issues you disagree with him on.

Islam and the downfall of the US are two of the big things I hear him discussing when I see him on TV.