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#121 noahbody

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 10:20 PM

Dangerous levels of global warming will be irreversible by 2017, the International Energy Agency (IEA) warned Wednesday. Only immediate restructuring of the world's energy use will prevent climate change becoming permanent, the agency said.


http://www.globalpos...s-energy-agency

I guess this means the 'if we don't act by 2012, we're doomed' prediction was wrong. We were less than two months away before had no reason to throw money at global warming. Luckily, there's been an extension.

If the earth has been warmer and had higher levels of CO2 and that didn't prevent the earth from cooling, why is it now going to be irreversible in 2017?

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 08:33 AM

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/green/global-warming/111109/global-warming-be-irreversible-2017-warns-energy-agency

I guess this means the 'if we don't act by 2012, we're doomed' prediction was wrong. We were less than two months away before had no reason to throw money at global warming. Luckily, there's been an extension.

If the earth has been warmer and had higher levels of CO2 and that didn't prevent the earth from cooling, why is it now going to be irreversible in 2017?


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Posted 19 November 2011 - 01:58 PM

Too bad the useless MSM won't pick up information that is contrary to the alarmists.

http://lewrockwell.c...all-t8.1.1.html

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 02:41 PM

Too bad the useless MSM won't pick up information that is contrary to the alarmists.

http://lewrockwell.c...all-t8.1.1.html


From the link:

It is logical to assume that if CO2 change follows temperature change in every record then CO2 cannot be a greenhouse gas.


Except that we know beyond any doubt that CO2 is in fact a greenhouse gas. If higher frequency, higher energy light (ie. the light from the sun) passes through CO2, while lower frequency, lower energy light (ie. the light emitted by the surface of the earth) is absorbed by CO2, then CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Which it is.

To suggest otherwise is pure quackery.

Now, perhaps the geographer, Tim Ball, meant to suggest that perhaps CO2 was not the driving force behind the warming trend. But that lack of specificity and clarity in his writing is a pretty good indication of why he hasn't had much luck in getting his papers into peer reviewed journals. Theres no big conspiracy at work here. Tim Ball either doesn't understand, or simply can't intelligibly convey, the science behind the discipline that he seems to want to have a voice in

Any atmospheric science undergraduate that submitted a paper to their professor in which they claimed that "CO2 is not a greenhouse gas" would immediatly be in danger of recieving a failing grade. It would be like a physics student denying gravity.
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