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[bush_cheney2004]

yet you barely hear a peep bout religion from any politician

I think I just heard your PM say, "God bless Canada". This is to be said before or after "God save the Queen"?

[American Woman]

I think I just heard your PM say, "God bless Canada".

That's ok - 65% of Canadians find 'God bless Canada' an acceptable way for Harper to end speeches



"God keep our land glorious and free....."

[olp1fan]

I think I just heard your PM say, "God bless Canada". This is to be said before or after "God save the Queen"?

how many other times has he said it

[olp1fan]

That's ok - 65% of Canadians find 'God bless Canada' an acceptable way for Harper to end speeches



"God keep our land glorious and free....."

its just a word, it doesnt make us religious zealots unlike the US where you have the star spangled banner AND god bless america

[bush_cheney2004]

how many other times has he said it

999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 times!

[msj]

The 20% swing isn't taking error into account - as the results put both countries in the same moderate category, which hardly supports your conclusion that it means "a lot less" in Canada.

To clarify: that is a 20% point swing.

That is 44% more (65% versus 45% - that is 65% is 44% more than 45% - or just do the math 45% * 1.44 = 65%) responses for religion being an important part of one's daily life if one is an American versus being a typical Canadian.

That is statistically significant and the margin of error for the poll is less than 20% points.

In my opinion of course.

[olp1fan]

999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 times!

lets see

[dre]

To clarify: that is a 20% point swing.

That is 44% more (65% versus 45% - that is 65% is 44% more than 45% - or just do the math 45% * 1.44 = 65%) responses for religion being an important part of one's daily life if one is an American versus being a typical Canadian.

That is statistically significant and the margin of error for the poll is less than 20% points.

In my opinion of course.

Pretty silly stuff really. Theres a pretty large body of empyrical knowledge on this subject...

I notice this study from my post a few pages ago didnt get noticed...

Heres another study... the most extensive one Iv found so far...
http://www.ur.umich....v24_03/15.shtml

That one surveyed about 250 000 people.

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The United States remains among the most religious nations in the world, according to a worldwide study by the University.

About 46 percent of American adults attend church at least once a week, not counting weddings, funerals and christenings, compared with 14 percent of adults in Great Britain, 8 percent in France, 7 percent in Sweden and 4 percent in Japan.

Moreover, 58 percent of Americans say they often think about the meaning and purpose of life, compared with 25 percent of British, 26 percent of Japanese and 31 percent of West Germans, the study says.

"While traditional religious belief and participation in organized religion have steadily declined in most advanced industrial nations, especially in Western Europe, this is not the case in the United States," says Ronald Inglehart, a researcher at the Institute for Social Research (ISR) and director of the ISR World Values Surveys, which were conducted in more than 80 nations between 1981 and 2001

Nobody has presented even a shred of evidence to dispute any of this, and AW/BC obviously dont wanna go there because they know premise is bunk. They know the US is more religious than Canada and so does everyone else on earth. That leaves them scouring google looking for little anecdotes and places where god is mentioned by our politicians and in national documents, and debating whether a 20% swing constitues "a lot", as if these things constitute some sort of cogent argument.

[msj]

Pretty silly stuff really. Theres a pretty large body of empyrical knowledge on this subject...

I notice this study from my post a few pages ago didnt get noticed...

I noticed it but it didn't have anything to say about Canada....

Nobody has presented even a shred of evidence to dispute any of this, and AW/BC obviously dont wanna go there because they know premise is bunk. They know the US is more religious than Canada and so does everyone else on earth. That leaves them scouring google looking for little anecdotes and places where god is mentioned by our politicians and in national documents, and debating whether a 20% swing constitues "a lot", as if these things constitute some sort of cogent argument.

One would hope that they know.

Or at least that AW would know since it is her link that I have repeatedly referenced.

But anecdata is much funner to mine than discussing a 44% statistical difference between Americans and Canadians.

Edited by msj, 02 December 2011 - 09:53 PM.

[bush_cheney2004]

....Nobody has presented even a shred of evidence to dispute any of this, and AW/BC obviously dont wanna go there because they know premise is bunk.

Is it? Then why such a protest at the very thought of a more religious Canada? There are probably several neurotic / identity crisis reasons to choose from. "God" lives in Canada.

[American Woman]

Is it? Then why such a protest at the very thought of a more religious Canada? There are probably several neurotic / identity crisis reasons to choose from. "God" lives in Canada.

"God bless Canada"? God has nothing to do with it, Mr. Harper.

[msj]

"God bless Canada"? God has nothing to do with it, Mr. Harper.

Wow, your anecdata mining is hitting new lows.

[bush_cheney2004]

"God bless Canada"? God has nothing to do with it, Mr. Harper.

LOL! In typical Canadian fashion, the blogger defines Canada by what it is not (British or American).

But that doesn't exclude God!

[GostHacked]

The last few pages have been an awesome read. Great stuff going on here folks!

[American Woman]

LOL! In typical Canadian fashion, the blogger defines Canada by what it is not (British or American).

"Canadians have been so busy explaining to the Americans that we aren't British, and to the British that we aren't Americans that we haven't had time to become Canadians."
Helen Gordon McPherson