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[capricorn]

and Harper spent 900 million on the g8/g20 summit that most countries only spend less than 200 million on

As Smallc said, other countries did not account for every single expenditure for their summits. Had they done that, their expenses would easily match what the Conservatives have spent. Google it sometime you might learn something.

add the tony clement theft of 50 mil id say thats pretty bad waste of taxpayers money

One thing is clear. You don't know the difference between government projects where some folks question whether funds should have been spent on different ventures and government outright theft of taxpayer funds.

[olpfan1]

As Smallc said, other countries did not account for every single expenditure for their summits. Had they done that, their expenses would easily match what the Conservatives have spent. Google it sometime you might learn something.



One thing is clear. You don't know the difference between government projects where some folks question whether funds should have been spent on different ventures and government outright theft of taxpayer funds.

Stealing money from the border security fund and then spending it on projects hand picked by the minister
with no paper trail IS outright theft.. goddamnit that ia fraud

if that isnt fraud then you try it rofl

Edited by olpfan1, 21 February 2012 - 11:16 PM.

[olpfan1]

That isn't even remotely true. The other countries are being less than honest with their accounting with regards to what was used for the event.

Oh so you are an expert on dishonest accounting .. I don't think I'll listen to you

[Smallc]

Oh so you are an expert on dishonest accounting .. I don't think I'll listen to you

Do you honestly believe that th US spent less than 18M for a similar summit? Really? Canadian officials included all pertinent expenses. Other countries simply redirect money from other established budgets, and so it doesn't show up the same way.

Edited by Smallc, 21 February 2012 - 11:32 PM.

[olpfan1]

Do you honestly believe that th US spent less than 18M for a similar summit? Really? Canadian officials included all pertinent expenses. Other countries simply redirect money from other established budgets, and so it doesn't show up the same way.

all you can do is guess.. but you dont know how much in total they spent

[Smallc]

all you can do is guess.. but you dont know how much in total they spent

No, and neither do you. That's the point. I do know that the summit in Canada came in far under budget, even with two sites. I also know that the 2002 G8 summit in Alberta was over 200M.

[Wild Bill]

Stealing money from the border security fund and then spending it on projects hand picked by the minister
with no paper trail IS outright theft.. goddamnit that ia fraud

if that isnt fraud then you try it rofl

You either have no capacity for logic or you are deliberately dodging the issue, or both!

If you equate misspending of our taxes on projects that are still PROJECTS FOR THE CANADIAN PEOPLE with directly stealing hundreds of millions of dollars of our taxes and spending it on THE LIBERAL PARTY ITSELF then there's simply no point in talking to you at all.

It's like arguing with a Jehovah's Witness!

[Peeves]

What does this have to do with McGuinty?

I think Ornge comes within the Liberal's purview, by association, McGuinty "The buck stops (or doesn't in the Liberals case) here.
The OPP is investigating Ornge.
"ORNGE, which employs 400 people, receives $150 million in public funding each year."From our taxes, from the government dispersements.


Doesn't ORNGE come under the Ministry of Health which is in the Liberal Government. Isn't McGuinty defending his Ministry over Orange malfeasance?

McGuinty publicaly supports minister of health over ORNGE charges.

The McGuinty government was on the defensive during the first day of the legislature’s spring session, with opposition members accusing it of ignoring repeated warnings about problems at the province’s air-ambulance service.

Progressive Conservative MPP Frank Klees called on Health Minister Deb Matthews to resign, saying in Question Period on Tuesday that he believes a criminal probe into Ornge could lead to her office – an allegation he repeated outside the chamber.
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“It may well be that that criminal investigation reaches into the minister’s office,” he told reporters. “So there should be no impediment to that.”

Mr. Klees raised questions about Ornge 10 months ago. He has been on the outs with his caucus colleagues in recent months for defying Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak by running unsuccessfully for Speaker. But he received two standing ovations from his Tory colleagues in Question Period as he accused the government of trying to cover up the scandal swirling around Ornge.

Government officials, including Ms. Matthews, have known for at least a year that for-profit entities created by Ornge were doing business under the same roof as the publicly funded air carrier, Mr. Klees said.

Ms. Matthews called in forensic auditors in December to pore over Ornge’s financial records to determine whether taxpayers’ money was used for the private companies. Ornge receives $150-million a year to manage all aspects of the province’s air ambulance service.

[olpfan1]

You either have no capacity for logic or you are deliberately dodging the issue, or both!

If you equate misspending of our taxes on projects that are still PROJECTS FOR THE CANADIAN PEOPLE with directly stealing hundreds of millions of dollars of our taxes and spending it on THE LIBERAL PARTY ITSELF then there's simply no point in talking to you at all.

It's like arguing with a Jehovah's Witness!

Clement used the beautifying of his riding to make his friends money / getting elected in the next election
if you cant see that you are partisanly blind

[olpfan1]

Doesn't ORNGE come under the Ministry of Health which is in the Liberal Government. Isn't McGuinty defending his Ministry over Orange malfeasance?

McGuinty publicaly supports minister of health over ORNGE charges.

When Harper defends his ministers during scandals hes "loyal" when Mcguinty does it its a cover up
once you so called conservatives start demanding honesty from harper the liberals will start demamding it from Mcguinty

[guyser]

Clement used the beautifying of his riding to make his friends money / getting elected in the next election
if you cant see that you are partisanly blind

Beautifying yes, getting elected yes , making friends money I will go with No. Tony doesnt have many friends in his riding (or anywhere else for that matter), although a ton of them voted for him.

[Wild Bill]

Clement used the beautifying of his riding to make his friends money / getting elected in the next election
if you cant see that you are partisanly blind

At least we got the G20 summit out of it! Perhaps it didn't have to be Tony's riding which got beautified but SOME riding SOMEWHERE would have needed to be beautified and hold the summit!

What did Canadians get from AdScam?

Sweet Fanny Apples! There is still no comparison!

Edited by Wild Bill, 22 February 2012 - 02:04 PM.

[guyser]

What did Canadians get from AdScam?

Sweet Fanny Apples! There is still no comparison!

The complete obliteration of the Liberal Party.
A Conservative majority after 2 minority govt's.

Something for those on the right to bring up anytime the Conservatives are caught with the hand in the money jar.

[olpfan1]

The complete obliteration of the Liberal Party.
A Conservative majority after 2 minority govt's.

Something for those on the right to bring up anytime the Conservatives are caught with the hand in the money jar.

haha, perfect response

[olpfan1]

At least we got the G20 summit out of it! Perhaps it didn't have to be Tony's riding which got beautified but SOME riding SOMEWHERE would have needed to be beautified and hold the summit!

What did Canadians get from AdScam?

Sweet Fanny Apples! There is still no comparison!

They didnt even have it in his riding .. it was moved which tony knew and he still built a brand new arena
justifying it was for the summit

Bill you cant deny any of this they are in tony clements emails