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Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:49 PM

Certain child port is. Boasting about it is a bad idea.



What is child port?
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:16 AM

What is child port?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 09:06 AM

What is child port?

Fortified wine......with a dash of soda so as not to get the kiddies loopy....but sleepy is always welcome.

Kinda like at the Italian in-laws on Sunday night.

"Nona....just a little w some soda...pleeeeeease!"

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:46 PM

Whatever. The authorities can determine whether he was talking about legal porn or child porn, as is the topic here.

The post he was replying to was obviously about "porn," not "child porn." Heaven help us if the RCMP and FBI have to deal with every ridiculous report such as yours. Seriously. Think of the wasted money and man power - and how it takes away from actual cases that actually need attention.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:58 PM

.... Seriously. Think of the wasted money and man power - and how it takes away from actual cases that actually need attention.



Indeed....child porn accusations have to pass a better smell test than just claims from some whacko on a web forum, otherwise politicians would do it in ad campaigns! ;)
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:03 AM

Hopefully such wackos are appropriately screened and ignored. It's pretty sick to use the problem of child pornography to satisfy vendettas against others.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:24 AM

On the recent discussion:
I was once on a nudist website and saw a picture of a naked girl that had the label "17yrOLDnude" or something similar.

Feel free to report me to the RCMP, FBI, KGB, CIA, KKK, UFP, DRE, and NDP if you wish.

On the thread as a whole:
The fact that this thread is 10 pages long bothers me. I keep seeing it pop up and decided to come on in to see what was going on. Why on earth is there such a long thread on kiddie porn? I half fear that anyone who defends it like I just did is sent a covert PM and offered pix. If so, for the love of God, please do not PM me with any disgusting pictures. Just because I once saw a 17 year old (supposedly) girl on a nudist website does not make me a pedo, nor, does it make me want to be a pedo.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:58 AM

.... Just because I once saw a 17 year old (supposedly) girl on a nudist website does not make me a pedo, nor, does it make me want to be a pedo.



Definitely not....but that won't deter the self appointed pedo police here!

Back in the mid 1980's, a 16 year old girl fooled Penthouse and the Hollywood porn industry by being cast in a "feature" film that spoofed the popular mermaid movie Splash. When it was proven that the girl, stage named Traci Lords, was in fact underage, there was a mad scramble to find all the VHS copies of her films and destroy them. This led directly to an age certification and records process for all actors in the US porn industry.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:21 PM

Definitely not....but that won't deter the self appointed pedo police here!

Back in the mid 1980's, a 16 year old girl fooled Penthouse and the Hollywood porn industry by being cast in a "feature" film that spoofed the popular mermaid movie Splash. When it was proven that the girl, stage named Traci Lords, was in fact underage, there was a mad scramble to find all the VHS copies of her films and destroy them. This led directly to an age certification and records process for all actors in the US porn industry.

Yup....'cept she was 15.

And if anyone owns that VHS tape or another one with her in it, has 'hooker' in the title , you can be charged with possession of child porn.

Aint no grandfathering clause in this case.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:10 PM

Yup....'cept she was 15.


'Coulda fooled me in that mermaid costume! Mermaids look young for their age.


And if anyone owns that VHS tape or another one with her in it, has 'hooker' in the title , you can be charged with possession of child porn.


Yep, her underage films are Taboo (pardon the pun).


Aint no grandfathering clause in this case.

Stick to Ivory.


The funny part is that Traci Lords would go on to be a successful 'B' movie actor, unlike most of her cohorts who were forever blacklisted from "mainstream" films (at the time).
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

The funny part is that Traci Lords would go on to be a successful 'B' movie actor, unlike most of her cohorts who were forever blacklisted from "mainstream" films (at the time).


It is widely believed (not too sure but thats what I read)that she orchestrated the whole thing herself, ratting to the feds that she was underage during filming.

She wanted to eventually go legit, and has kind of, but at the time also released a movie that she produced directed and starred in and she knew she would profit....and at the very least she was able to negate anyone else from profitting on her back catalogue.

Kinda savvy to say the least.

ETA- I was watching The DOg Whisperer alongside my gf and the woman he was helping looked familiar....once I recalled who she was I blurted out "hey shes an old porn star".....and turned my head whe I heard "oh and how do you know that?"

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:53 PM

....ETA- I was watching The DOg Whisperer alongside my gf and the woman he was helping looked familiar....once I recalled who she was I blurted out "hey shes an old porn star".....and turned my head whe I heard "oh and how do you know that?"



LOL! It was Ginger Lynn IIRC.

Porn and the military were made for each other....I remember when our boat (sub) first got a closed circuit TV system complete with VHS decks for command programming and communications. The first "programming" viewed by the crew were porno tapes, and the captain got the best seat! Then some idiot told his wife.

I can't ever recall incidents involving child porn, but we did have one officer get busted for indecent exposure at a playground. I figured he was just trying to get out of going on patrol...where we took our porn with us.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:11 PM

Yup....'cept she was 15.

And if anyone owns that VHS tape or another one with her in it, has 'hooker' in the title , you can be charged with possession of child porn.

Aint no grandfathering clause in this case.

Stick to Ivory.


I was cleaning out a closet some years ago, when guess what I found? Some old mens magazines, one of which was the Penthouse with George Burns on the cover. I flipped through it, being a fan of Burns, and remember seeing the Tracy Lords centerfold. The first thing I recall thinking was, she sure as hell doesn't look like any fifteen year old I remember seeing in high school. My second thought was - holy crap, I better get rid of this freaking thing fast. Was living in an apartment building then, so down the chute it went.

I don't like laws which are as drastic as the child porn law is (probably worse than anything short of murder), yet can catch people completely inadvertently and destroy them.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:49 PM

I was cleaning out a closet some years ago, when guess what I found? Some old mens magazines, one of which was the Penthouse with George Burns on the cover. I flipped through it, being a fan of Burns, and remember seeing the Tracy Lords centerfold. The first thing I recall thinking was, she sure as hell doesn't look like any fifteen year old I remember seeing in high school. My second thought was - holy crap, I better get rid of this freaking thing fast. Was living in an apartment building then, so down the chute it went.

I don't like laws which are as drastic as the child porn law is (probably worse than anything short of murder), yet can catch people completely inadvertently and destroy them.

Should have found some guy to pay much dinero for it.....of course you meet him w a fake nose and moustache :D

The law of unitended consequences is in play here. Yes, you are correct in that something legal you bought is now something you could go to jail for, although I honestly doubt it for the one mag, however any arrest or publication of name would destroy you for work and other things.

Because the arrest is page one,exhoneration is page 48 .

I too understand the dilemna, but as far as I know there has to be some conscious decision to seek out and keep the bad stuff instead of merely stumbling on it.

But I am aware of a teenager, 15 I think she was, who sent a topless pic from her phone to her BF's and was arrested for circulating child porn. Stupid no matter how you cut it.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:56 PM

New York State has ruled that simply viewing child porn on the internet is not illegal:

"The purposeful viewing of child pornography on the internet is now legal in New York," Senior Judge Carmen Beauchamp Ciparick wrote in a majority decision for the court.

The decision came after Marist College professor James D. Kent was sentenced to prison in August 2009 after more than 100 images of child pornography were found on his computer's cache.
Whenever someone views an image online, a copy of the image's data is saved in the computer's memory cache.

The ruling attempts to distinguish between individuals who see an image of child pornography online versus those who actively download and store such images, MSNBC reports. And in this case, it was ruled that a computer's image cache is not the same as actively choosing to download and save an image. link


This is the key: "Merely viewing Web images of child pornography does not, absent other proof, constitute either possession or procurement within the meaning of our Penal Law," Ciparick wrote in the decision.
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