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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:12 AM

reminds me of some of the Italian army jokes during the later stages of WW2.

It sounds more and more like as a captain he should be demoted to swabbie last class and given something he can steer, :unsure: like a mop in a jail cell.

Cowardly SOB deserves to be keel hauled or made to walk the plank.


I understand there is an automatic 12 year sentence ? if found guilty of deserting his ship.
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Life for the loss of life for his actions.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:18 AM

If he's worth his hide, he'll solve this w/ a pistol and a single bullet.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:25 AM

If he's worth his hide, he'll solve this w/ a pistol and a single bullet.


You're expecting a guy who cared so little about his passengers he was one of the first off his ship to honour kill himself. :rolleyes:

This guy is probably going to jail for awhile though.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:25 AM

Key word in my post: "If"

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:28 AM

The captain never leaves the ship before the rest of the passengers and crew are off. This guy is hardly worthy of the title Captain. That rock stuck in the side of the ship is 4x the size of my office!!!!

Complete human error and this tragedy could have been avoided.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:30 AM

I also fault cruise ships in general. Many are as top-heavy as a WW2 Jap aircraft carrier.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:35 AM

I also fault cruise ships in general. Many are as top-heavy as a WW2 Jap aircraft carrier.


So if it wasn't top heavy it would have just bounced off the rock?

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:06 AM

So if it wasn't top heavy it would have just bounced off the rock?


It wouldn't have capsized.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:26 AM

It wouldn't have capsized.


That's like saying if the Titanic didn't hit the Iceberg it wouldn't have sank. :rolleyes:

If this captain wasn't being a showboat idiot this wouldn't have happened.

Then again. . .

This could have also been a contributing factor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2088361/Costa-Concordia-Titanic-theme-tune-played-onboard-cruise-ship-started-sink.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

They said survivors of the disaster were 'astonished' by the eerie coincidence which saw them listening to Celine Dion's hit My Heart Will Go On as the cruise ship began to founder.

The song was made internationally famous in 1997 as the theme of James Cameronís epic movie about the 1912 sinking of the Titanic, starring Leonardo Di Caprio and Kate Winslet.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:30 AM

It's a fact that many cruise ships are way overweight in the upper superstructure. 10+ decks above the main deck, etc. I've already blamed the captain...but I'm just saying this is a fault with these ships. They will want to roll if flooding compartments doesn't work...often not an option in a cruise ship with thousands of passengers.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:36 AM

The captain never leaves the ship before the rest of the passengers and crew are off. This guy is hardly worthy of the title Captain. That rock stuck in the side of the ship is 4x the size of my office!!!!

Complete human error and this tragedy could have been avoided.

As for error you are correct.

But the Captain can leave the ship before some passengers. Maritime law soes not say women and children first nor does it say the Cpt goes down with the ship.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:36 AM

It's a fact that many cruise ships are way overweight in the upper superstructure. 10+ decks above the main deck, etc. I've already blamed the captain...but I'm just saying this is a fault with these ships. They will want to roll if flooding compartments doesn't work...often not an option in a cruise ship with thousands of passengers.


Well how else to you propose having a climbing wall, wave pool, mini-putt course, basketball court, buffet restaurant, gym, two pools, as well as the bridge on the deck of a ship?

Edited by Boges, 18 January 2012 - 09:38 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:50 AM

If he's worth his hide, he'll solve this w/ a pistol and a single bullet.


He would likely shoot a bystander as he lists to one side.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:43 AM

I also fault cruise ships in general. Many are as top-heavy as a WW2 Jap aircraft carrier.

According to this article, the design is indeed a factor: It shouldn’t have happened how it did, Nautilus International spokesman Tony Minns [said].

Sounds as if some of the faults in the design of these new, tall megaships might now be addressed.

But the Captain can leave the ship before some passengers. Maritime law soes not say women and children first nor does it say the Cpt goes down with the ship.


According to this article, Article 1097 of Italy's Maritime Law says: "If the commander does not leave last, he risks two years in jail; if the vessel is lost 2-8 years; if the boat is used to carry people - 3-12 years."

I can't imagine that the captain isn't in legal trouble, and I would think that he would find it rather difficult to live with his decision/actions.

Edited by American Woman, 18 January 2012 - 10:43 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:01 PM

The captain has claimed that when the ship listed heavily he fell into the water and could not physically get back on deck. The trial will tell the true story.

It is also claimed that the reason they hit the rocks off the town of Giglio was that one of the officers is from this tiny town and the Captain thought it would be fun to run the ship closer to give his shipmate a better look.

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