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[Derek L]

There is no international law against abandoning ship or stipulating that the captain has to be the last to leave the ship, but the cruise ship was sailing under the Italian flag - it was registered in Italy - so Italian maritime law applies, and Italian maritime code criminalizes the act of abandoning ship.



Edited to add: Crew members have testified that the captain wasn't wearing his glasses at the time, and was having trouble seeing the control panel. Things do not look good for him.

Not directly, but in International waters, the Captain must comply with the International Safety Management Code, which has a stated purpose of ensuring the safety of the crew/passengers.

Ironically, one such case worth reading is the sinking of another Italian owned and captained cruise ship, the SS Andrea Doria

[bush_cheney2004]

Ironically, one such case worth reading is the sinking of another Italian owned and captained cruise ship, the SS Andrea Doria

Right...the Andrea Doria - Stockholm collision is a standard topic for training captains and conning officers.

[Derek L]

Right...the Andrea Doria - Stockholm collision is a standard topic for training captains and conning officers.

Perhaps we’re dating ourselves……I’m waiting for Wild Bill to reflect on the RMS Titanic sinking though

[bush_cheney2004]

Perhaps we’re dating ourselves……I’m waiting for Wild Bill to reflect on the RMS Titanic sinking though

Now you know why we had to learn how to calculate course, speed, and CPA (closest point of approach) on polar graph paper covered in plexiglas. Melbourne-Evans was another textbook case (1969):


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne%E2%80%93Evans_collision

[Derek L]

Now you know why we had to learn how to calculate course, speed, and CPA (closest point of approach) on polar graph paper covered in plexiglas. Melbourne-Evans was another textbook case (1969):


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne%E2%80%93Evans_collision

Another example could be USS Belknap vs USS JFK.........Hence the "Belknap Light"......

The ultimate lesson learned is that a Carrier will always win……

Edited by Derek L, 05 March 2012 - 12:20 AM.

[bush_cheney2004]

Another example could be USS Belknap vs USS JFK.........Hence the "Belknap Light"......

The ultimate lesson learned is that a Carrier will always win……

Station keeping with a "birdfarm" trying to recover aircraft is never fun. It's worse with the entire group in formation. First the flagship signals the maneuver, then you have to signal understanding of the manuever, then the flagship signals "EXECUTE", and we all hope each ship does it correctly...at night...rigged for dark.

That's why these things go bump in the night.

[Derek L]

Station keeping with a "birdfarm" trying to recover aircraft is never fun. It's worse with the entire group in formation. First the flagship signals the maneuver, then you have to signal understanding of the manuever, then the flagship signals "EXECUTE", and we all hope each ship does it correctly...at night...rigged for dark.

That's why these things go bump in the night.

Indeed, though never bridge crew (nor technically Navy), from an observers point of view, exercising with a CVBG, and on several occasions an Iowa centered SAG, is defiantly “interesting” to say the least.

[bush_cheney2004]

Indeed, though never bridge crew (nor technically Navy)....

That's what's so hard to figure in this case except for gross incompetence by the captain and/or bridge watch. Today's navigation aids and ship control systems are vastly superior and redundant compared to dead reckoning and LORAN A/C. The ship knows exactly where it is in relation to chart features, and the software will warn the crew of proximity to "bad" water. Christo!

[Derek L]

That's what's so hard to figure in this case except for gross incompetence by the captain and/or bridge watch. Today's navigation aids and ship control systems are vastly superior and redundant compared to dead reckoning and LORAN A/C. The ship knows exactly where it is in relation to chart features, and the software will warn the crew of proximity to "bad" water. Christo!

Exactly.


I’d assume (and echo your point) baring any evidence suggesting the bridge crew had faulty navigation equipment/charts, the case of the MS Costa Concordia is clearly one of incompetence on the part of the captain.