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[Peeves]

"This report offers a selected, year-by-year compilation of Ahmadinejad's statements on Jews, the Holocaust and Israel in his own words."


For your, enlightenment as the case may be, or to
illuminate,inspiration or edification. Now I can't say I have heard them personally, because of course, there are thos that will claim they were never said.


On the other hand they seem verifiable from a verifiable psychopath perhaps. My own opinion of course.



http://www.adl.org/m...nejad_words.htm

[Peeves]

DID NOT!
DID TOO!
Not!
So!
Never!
UH HUH!


While there may well be a dispute, that's what we should indeed worry about if this country with raving leaders that await the 12th imam and worlds end get nuclear capability.

[bud]

ahmadinejad is an idiot and his denial of the holocaust should be scorned and condemned. also, his comment about israel being fake country is quite stupid, since, well the country of israel exists.

at the same time, many including me agree, that the holocaust has been used to extort sympathy and to excuse and justify atrocious actions by israel. the zionist ideology is a problem since it justifies human rights violations in order to achieve its goals.

[Bob]

The Holocaust is the pinnacle of what the Jewish people are vulnerable to in the absence of statehood. To paraphrase a great man, (the Jewish people) have endured the benefits of statelessness over many centuries: inquisitions and expulsions, dhimmitude, pogroms, and the Holocaust. Thanks, but no thanks. We've enjoyed enough of the minority benefits and will now determine out own destiny rather than allow our futures be defined for us by whims of our host societies who refuse to treat us as equal human beings.

It's predictable for someone like yourself to suggest that the Holocaust has been "exploited" by Zionism, rather than the simple truth - the Holocaust is the ultimate historical example of why Israel is necessary for the Jewish people. Of course, those who subscribe to demented political and historical narratives have a knack for perverting morality.

Edited by Bob, 15 February 2012 - 02:40 PM.

[Peeves]

The Holocaust is the pinnacle of what the Jewish people are vulnerable to in the absence of statehood. To paraphrase a great man, (the Jewish people) have endured the benefits of statelessness over many centuries: inquisitions and expulsions, dhimmitude, pogroms, and the Holocaust. Thanks, but not thanks. We've enjoyed enough of the minority benefits and will not determine out own destiny rather than enjoy the whims of our host societies who refuse to treat us as equal human beings.

It's predictable for someone like yourself to suggest that the Holocaust has been "exploited" by Zionism, rather than the simple truth - the Holocaust is the ultimate historical example of why Israel is necessary for the Jewish people. Of course, those who subscribe to demented political and historical narratives have a knack for perverting morality.

Those of his ilk might be needed by some, as a reminder

[Bob]

Those of his ilk might be needed by some, as a reminder

I agree, completely. As long as we have anti-Semites like bud in our midst, the need for Israel with remain.

[eyeball]

The Holocaust is the pinnacle of what the Jewish people are vulnerable to in the absence of statehood. To paraphrase a great man, (the Jewish people) have endured the benefits of statelessness over many centuries: inquisitions and expulsions, dhimmitude, pogroms, and the Holocaust. Thanks, but no thanks. We've enjoyed enough of the minority benefits and will now determine out own destiny rather than allow our futures be defined for us by whims of our host societies who refuse to treat us as equal human beings.

And how is pinning your destiny on the back's of a stateless host working out?

[bush_cheney2004]

And how is pinning your destiny on the back's of a stateless host working out?

The same as Canada's and the United States'...pretty well.

Edited by bush_cheney2004, 15 February 2012 - 10:39 PM.

[Peeves]

The same as Canada's and the United States'...pretty well.

Ever wonder (I do) if the statements openly, publicly, coming from Iran's leaders are so belligerent, anti Semitic/USA/UN,Israel....what are they saying in private?

[bush_cheney2004]

Ever wonder (I do) if the statements openly, publicly, coming from Iran's leaders are so belligerent, anti Semitic/USA/UN,Israel....what are they saying in private?

The only way for the Ayatollahs to keep power is to rail against The Great Satan. Many people don't realize this but Israel and Iran use to have excellent relations.

[eyeball]

The same as Canada's and the United States'...pretty well.

Maybe, things are starting to work out pretty well for mine. These are quite powerful times for some of my region's First Hosts - hosts who are rapidly becoming one of the biggest economic drivers hereabouts.

[Peeves]

The only way for the Ayatollahs to keep power is to rail against The Great Satan. Many people don't realize this but Israel and Iran use to have excellent relations.

Iran was once far more secular and so long as other religions were subservient and stayed under the radar there were few conflicts. The resorts had Bikinis, It was the Paris of the Middle East.


Now it's the arm pit.

[Wild Bill]

Iran was once far more secular and so long as other religions were subservient and stayed under the radar there were few conflicts. The resorts had Bikinis, It was the Paris of the Middle East.


Now it's the arm pit.

Arm pit? You chose a much kinder example than I would have...

[GostHacked]

I agree, completely. As long as we have anti-Semites like bud in our midst, the need for Israel with remain.

I'll say bud is not an anti-semite. He is very critical of Israel. But you don't want to acknowledge that there is a difference because that allows you to continue your rhetoric and label someone as an anti-semite or a holocaust denier. It's pathetic. And it's people like you and your rhetoric that simply does not help at all. But you have admitted yourself that you have no problems with removing the filth from around Israel. There is no way you can deny that unless you want to revisit your whole stance on this particular issue and change your mind.

If I had the barrels of NATO's guns aimed at me, you'd can sure bet on me wanting to obtain a nuclear weapon for some type of protection. The Iranian goverment might be stupid, but they are not suicidal.