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[guyser]

I'm curious about the female that had Vic baby, she was a babysitter, right? Teenager? How young? This just shows his character and his attraction for young young females.

You ask a question then speculate on the answer then condemn the guy?
Weird.

Edited by guyser, 16 February 2012 - 08:11 AM.

[msj]

Sorry, but I don't buy "the ends justify the means" type arguments.

If the tweets are based on publicly available information then is that ok?

[scribblet]

I'm curious about the female that had Vic baby, she was a babysitter, right? Teenager? How young? This just shows his character and his attraction for young young females.

Sheez, speculation, innuendo and gutter gossip, show the proof that she was a teenager etc. and not gutter sniping tweets

Edited by scribblet, 16 February 2012 - 08:25 AM.

[Manny]

Sheez, speculation, innuendo and gutter gossip, show the proof that she was a teenager etc. and not gutter sniping tweets

“He can either stand with us or with the child pornographers.” - Vic Toews.

Is that not gutter sniping enough for you?

[scribblet]

“He can either stand with us or with the child pornographers.” - Vic Toews.

Is that not gutter sniping enough for you?

Considering the hyperbole and distortions coming from the opposition he replied in kind...

Provide proof other than twits that a teenager was involved.

[The_Squid]

words:

“Marriage is one of the cornerstones upon which our society has been built.” Vic Toews 7/24/2002

Actions:

Knocks up babysitter.... stops paying child support....

[Wild Bill]

Considering the hyperbole and distortions coming from the opposition he replied in kind...

Provide proof other than twits that a teenager was involved.

You know Scribb, this whole issue was as predictable as dawn's light! I'm starting to wonder if there's more to it.

Vic is the front man and he's the one who caused all the blowback. Perhaps he was given enough rope?

Maybe Harper needed an excuse to clip his wings and that of the social conservatives in the party who support Vic's kind of thinking.

Or am I reading too much into it? Harper has always been pretty sharp. I can't believe he didn't see the backlash coming...

[olpfan1]

Considering the hyperbole and distortions coming from the opposition he replied in kind...

Provide proof other than twits that a teenager was involved.

you want a rhetoric war, you've got one

Edited by olpfan1, 16 February 2012 - 01:58 PM.

[cybercoma]

If the tweets are based on publicly available information then is that ok?

It's not hypocritical, but it certainly isn't ok. The personal attacks are unnecessary. The criticisms ought to be aimed at the legislation.

[Argus]

I'm curious about the female that had Vic baby, she was a babysitter, right? Teenager? How young? This just shows his character and his attraction for young young females.

You mean he's heterosexual?

[Argus]

For all the squealing I still haven't seen a single example of how this bill would hurt anyone.

[Manny]

You mean he's heterosexual?

Oh I see. So now you assert it's ok, because he's a real HE-MAN for knocking up a little girl.
I mean, what real man could refuse, right?

[cybercoma]

For all the squealing I still haven't seen a single example of how this bill would hurt anyone.

It wouldn't hurt anyone if the cops put cameras in everybody's home either. If you're not doing anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about. Of course, there's some people that value their privacy.

[Wild Bill]

For all the squealing I still haven't seen a single example of how this bill would hurt anyone.

Obviously Argus, you have a childlike faith that the police will always do the right thing, would never abuse their position or use the Law as a tool against the suspected until and unless they were proven innocent.

This Bill would hurt someone because you are giving too much power into the hands of those who are not always perfect in how they wield it! There are legions of stories of people who are abused at the hands of police!

Not all of course but hey, a small percentage can do a great deal of damage when given powerful tools, as this Bill is trying to do!

I'm still not comfortable with giving harsher mandatory sentences to those growing more than 6 pot plants than to those caught practicing pedophilia! I would have expected such silliness more from the opposition parties, as we saw when the Liberals introduced their gun registry and had a harsher sentence for someone not registering than for someone using a gun to rob a variety store.

Here in Hamilton a young black man coming home off the GO bus was arrested, held in jail for days, and treated roughly as a burglary suspect. The witness identification of the robber was a man nowhere near his height and white, not black! He was stonewalled when he tried to lodge a complaint. To his credit, he eventually had his day but it was a hard row for him to hoe to achieve it! If you want to google the case, his name is Michael Dixon.

You can't give such powerful tools to those who are chosen and trained more for their proficiency with force than for their understanding of human rights. There are also always pressures for cops to get their man, ANY man! Ask David Milgaard.

I don't mean to be insulting Angus but sometimes you make me think you live in Mayberry, with Andy, Barney and Opie!

[Argus]

Oh I see. So now you assert it's ok, because he's a real HE-MAN for knocking up a little girl.
I mean, what real man could refuse, right?

A little girl? How tall was she?