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#106 Derek L

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:43 PM

You know Scribb, this whole issue was as predictable as dawn's light! I'm starting to wonder if there's more to it.

Vic is the front man and he's the one who caused all the blowback. Perhaps he was given enough rope?

Maybe Harper needed an excuse to clip his wings and that of the social conservatives in the party who support Vic's kind of thinking.

Or am I reading too much into it? Harper has always been pretty sharp. I can't believe he didn't see the backlash coming...


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:43 PM

It wouldn't hurt anyone if the cops put cameras in everybody's home either. If you're not doing anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about. Of course, there's some people that value their privacy.


How is your privacy threatened?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:46 PM

Obviously Argus, you have a childlike faith that the police will always do the right thing, would never abuse their position or use the Law as a tool against the suspected until and unless they were proven innocent.


I suggest you do a search on the G20 police riots and my very clearly expressed opinion about police in Canada.

This Bill would hurt someone because you are giving too much power into the hands of those who are not always perfect in how they wield it! There are legions of stories of people who are abused at the hands of police!


The power to do what? They can already access everything you've done on-line with a warrant. They will still need a warrant to look at it. The only real difference is that when they get a warrant they'll be able to look back on 90 days, instead of whatever it was your ISP had stored.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:46 PM

Oh I see. So now you assert it's ok, because he's a real HE-MAN for knocking up a little girl.
I mean, what real man could refuse, right?


You got any evidence that she was a “little girl”? My Neighbour has a 39 year old Filipino Nanny……just saying….Best watch the idle libel….
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:47 PM

It wouldn't hurt anyone if the cops put cameras in everybody's home either. If you're not doing anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about. Of course, there's some people that value their privacy.


I do value my privacy, but I haven't seen how the police are going to be able to violate it any more thoroughly under this bill than they can now.

And honestly, if anyone thinks that ANYTHING they do on-line is private they're really kidding themselves. If the government, if any government wants to know what you've been up to they won't have the slightest difficulty finding out, warrant or not.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:49 PM

It wouldn't hurt anyone if the cops put cameras in everybody's home either. If you're not doing anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about. Of course, there's some people that value their privacy.


Would you want a camera in your home?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:52 PM

Would you want a camera in your home?


Many people have cameras in their homes these days, often connected to the internet I might add.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:22 PM

My Neighbour has a 39 year old Filipino Nanny……just saying….

Sorta like Schwarzenegger except she was Guatemalan.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:29 PM

Many people have cameras in their homes these days, often connected to the internet I might add.


That’s by choice no?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

Sorta like Schwarzenegger except she was Guatemalan.


Sure it might be morally repugnant for a married man to cheat on his wife with the nanny, but not illegal.
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-Winston Churchill-

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

Turns out the NDP are responsible for the Vikleaks30 twitter account.

http://www.ottawacit...5497/story.html

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

There's not enough there yet to jump to conclusions as to who's responsible.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:19 PM

There's not enough there yet to jump to conclusions as to who's responsible.

Hmmm... it's coming from a computer on parliament hill that has been updating wikipedia with pro-NDP information.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:22 PM

Hmmm... it's coming from a computer on parliament hill that has been updating wikipedia with pro-NDP information.


Well posting on a Paul Simon fan site:





Any NDPers we can call Al?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

The current NDP caucus with names similar to Al………or Betty:

http://www.ndp.ca/ourcaucus


Alain Gigučre
Marc-Aurčle-Fortin

Alexandre Boulerice
Rosemont--La Petite-Patrie

Malcolm Allen
Welland

Randall Garrison
Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca

Alex Atamanenko
British Columbia Southern Interior

I leave the investigation into finding the rollie pollie bat faced girl to others
The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government.
-Barry Goldwater-

Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-

Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-



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