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Election 41 Fraud Thread: Robocalling, Misdirection, Vote Moving, etc.


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#16 PIK

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:10 AM

Oh I am sure the NDP can do dirty things too, every political group will, it's just done more by the CPC in the last 6 years than the other parties

btw, I doubt anyone will accept a blogspot post as legit

Blogspots are only legit when it is against the cons ,I get it.;)
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:11 AM

the company, "Racknine"... whatever relevance/significance you think mentioning the company's riding location (or reference to it's MP) has, are few things are certain:


I just did it to provoke a response for you, my target was within fifteen minutes and you came very close.
I really appreciate the close attention you pay to every post I make, I feel loved and comforted.
It would actually depend which side of 50th street the Racknine office is on whether it is in the NDP riding.
The government should do something.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:12 AM

Blogspots are only legit when it is against the cons ,I get it.;)


I've never seen anyone but you post a blogspot

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:18 AM

The sun news is so riled they got a fast quick article out to lessen the damage..you can tell since they repeated a quote twice

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/02/20120223-115806.html


The Conservative Party of Canada was not involved with these calls. We spent the entire campaign identifying supporters and we work hard to get them out to vote on Election Day," said party spokesman Fred Delorey. "Our job is to get votes out, we do not engage in voter suppression."

Jenni Byrne, 2011 National Campaign Manager for the Conservative Party of Canada, released the following statement:

"The Conservative Party of Canada ran a clean and ethical campaign and would never tolerate such activity. The Party was not involved with these calls and if anyone on a local campaign was involved they will not play a role in a future campaign.

Voter suppression is extremely serious and If anything improper occurred those responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

We spent the entire campaign identifying supporters and we worked hard to get them out to vote.

Our job is to get votes out, we do not engage in voter suppression."


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:25 AM

One other interesting fact is what is NOT here. The path goes through Conservative and Liberal ties but nothing at all linked to the NDP. The Liberals and Conservatives are left accusing each other and the NDP are on the sidelines.


2 things...

1) Some information or cite or your assertion to "Liberal ties"

and

2) How again are the Liberals involved in this particular instance and why would anyone accuse them of involvement?
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

There should be re elections wherever this occurred including Harper's own riding otherwise this is bunk

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:36 AM

I know what Hypocrite means and I know what one looks like ^ , thank you very much

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

The robocalling was done in 18 swing ridings... this government is illegitimate

The governor general has to seriously consider calling for another election

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:43 AM

The subject firm is lcoated in Edmonton- Strathcona riding, home of lonely NDP MP Linda Duncan.

the company, "Racknine"... whatever relevance/significance you think mentioning the company's riding location (or reference to it's MP) has, are few things are certain:

Racknine worked for the Harper Conservatives 2011 national campaign and those of at least nine Conservative candidates, including Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s own campaign in Calgary Southwest.


I just did it to provoke a response for you, my target was within fifteen minutes and you came very close. I really appreciate the close attention you pay to every post I make, I feel loved and comforted. It would actually depend which side of 50th street the Racknine office is on whether it is in the NDP riding.

I see you're still smarting! I note your updated strident attention to detail on the company's geographic location... even if it undercuts your earlier premise (whatever it actually was... since you seem to be deflecting wildly from it) - good on ya!

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:53 AM

I'm not sure what people are complaining about here. Politicians lie to people all the time - from all parties. Why is it somehow worse if their campaign workers lie to people?
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:53 AM

The robocalling was done in 18 swing ridings... this government is illegitimate

The governor general has to seriously consider calling for another election


:rolleyes: :P :rolleyes:
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:01 PM

:rolleyes: :P :rolleyes:


Do you think the most widespread case of election fraud in our country's history is amusing? That there shouldn't be consequences?

Why not hold an election? If you believe the Tories would still win anyway why not agree to call for re elections? or are you scurred

Edited by olpfan1, 23 February 2012 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:33 PM

There's been a lot of talk about recall legislation these days.

I wonder why...

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:54 PM

Maybe Harper leaked this story to the press because he wanted us to be distracted by this so we forget about Toews & Bil C-30?

Harper has to know nothing will happen as the result of this so that is why he took the gamble

Oh I am on to you Harper

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:40 PM

Some people should actually READ an article before they get all in a frenzy.

The article and sequence of events are interesting and is a good challenge to unwind. The evidence that the article presented is this:
- A disposable cell phone was purchased and used was registered in the 405 area code which is northeast of Montreal.
- An account was setup, perhaps by credit card, and the account was traced to someone in the East
- An Edmonton Call Center was used to setup the account and to make the calls. The Call Center has 200 account that include the National Conservative Party and 9 Conservative candidates including Harper. To quote the article "There is no evidence that Harper’s campaign or any of the other candidates were involved in the calls."
- Harassing calls and misinformation on voting was sent to 18 ridings across Canada from the Edmonton Call Center on Election Day. It appeared Liberal supporters received the vast majority of these harassing and misleading calls.Most of the ridings targetted were ridings where the Liberal and Conservative candidates were in a close race.

From the evidence presented it is obvious the person(s) wanted to hide their identity. My guess as well is, if a credit card was used to setup the Call Center account, then that credit card number may be a stolen number. That assumption is purely a guess.

The most direct tie to the person(s) involved is the disposable cell phone purchased and registered in the 405 area code near Montreal.

One other interesting fact is what is NOT here. The path goes through Conservative and Liberal ties but nothing at all linked to the NDP. The Liberals and Conservatives are left accusing each other and the NDP are on the sidelines.

Gee, out east... Montreal area?

What else do we know about that?

Wasn't that where the Tories set up their 'Shadow MP'?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/12/07/pol-cp-cotler-shadow-mp.html

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