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[scribblet]

That's disgusting, Isn’t the woman entitled to privacy, my goodness, and her family. I hope no one with any integrity agrees with what they are doing…

[Jack Weber]

That's disgusting, Isn’t the woman entitled to privacy, my goodness, and her family. I hope no one with any integrity agrees with what they are doing…

The irony of this post from this member cannot be overstated...

[olpfan1]

I think its time to get to know Stacey Meek

[olpfan1]

That's disgusting, Isn’t the woman entitled to privacy, my goodness, and her family. I hope no one with any integrity agrees with what they are doing…

Anybody who signs off on that bill will be held accountable
Like Anonymous says if we're not allowed secrets neither are they

[Jack Weber]

I don't agree with Anonymous' methods...

As I said before,I would prefer Dr. Anne Cavoukian's more reasoned approach...

However,the intransigence of the current gang of autocratic authoritarian bullies controlling things in Ottawa needs to change.

[Argus]

Its the governments fault for tabling extreme legislation such as the Copyright and Internet surveillance bills.
Anonymous wasn't paying attention to Canada at all until this happened. You reap what you sow.

I don't think much of criminal vigilantes threatening politicians in a democratic government.

I can't say I think much of people who admire them either.

[Jack Weber]

To keep track of the events here is recap to date:

Extortion of Toews
by Anonymous White North

The demands are:
- apologize to Canada
- Toews is to resign immediately
- scrap Bill C-30

Or else:
- they have a lot of personal information on Toews they will release and it is the tip of the iceberg
- Toews will lose his job

Now


Extortion of Toews, the Sequel
by Anonymous North (new name)

The demands are:
- apologize to Canada
- Toews is to resign immediately, again
- scrap Bill C-30 and Bill C-11
- you better not cut off my You tube

Or else:
- they have a lot of personal information on Toews they will release as he has lots of skeletons in the closet (changed from tip of the iceburg)
- Toews will lose his job

One last thing:
- if anyone has personal information on Toews send to the email below

Interesting you use the word "Extortion"...

Are you suggesting we should do absolutely nothing about this all encompassing bill to designed to curtail our personal privacy and freedom and give the police sweeping powers to invade our privacy...All under the guise of protecting us from potential "Child pornographers" and "Pedophiles"?

My suggestion is that you take a look at my post showing Steve Paiken's interview with Anne Cavoukian from earlier this week..It explains things far beter than Anonymous' more visceral approach...

[olpfan1]

I don't think much of criminal vigilantes threatening politicians in a democratic government.

I can't say I think much of people who admire them either.

why am I not surprised, you are a harper supporter

[olpfan1]

I don't agree with Anonymous' methods...

As I said before,I would prefer Dr. Anne Cavoukian's more reasoned approach...

However,the intransigence of the current gang of autocratic authoritarian bullies controlling things in Ottawa needs to change.

Yep, extreme times calls for drastic measures

[Jack Weber]

I don't think much of criminal vigilantes threatening politicians in a democratic government.

I can't say I think much of people who admire them either.

Yes...I find their approach more than a little unseemly...

However,this bill is a steaming pile of bovine excrement and does indeed need to be scrapped...

[Argus]

I don't agree with Anonymous' methods...

As I said before,I would prefer Dr. Anne Cavoukian's more reasoned approach...

However,the intransigence of the current gang of autocratic authoritarian bullies controlling things in Ottawa needs to change.

Yeah, they're unique in the anals of Canadian political history.

When the Liberal government of Paul Martin introduced the Modernization of Investigative Techniques Act in November of 2005, it received comparatively little attention. As the columnist Thomas Walkom described it in the Toronto Star, the bill would require Internet and telephone companies “to install equipment that would allow the state to monitor all of their customers… [I]t would give police … the power to demand, without the need for court warrants, any information that [these] companies keep on their customers — including addresses, passwords and credit card information.” The public safety minister at the time, Anne McLellan, was quoted to the effect that the police needed the new powers to go after terrorists and child pornographers.

Same old bill, new hysteria

Sayyyy, weren't most of you complaining so hysterically Liberal supporters?

[Wild Bill]

Who gets to release personal information on the members of Anonymous? And why are they interfering in our politics and especially the specifics of particular domestic Canadian legislation?

Who made Anonymous the politics sheriffs? Who made them the truth sheriffs? Who made them the legislation sheriffs? Who made them the arbitors of justice? And who holds them accountable?

You may be right, Shady. This might be a case of a cure worse than the disease!

What we are witnessing here is blackmail,pure and simple. True, Vic seems a despicable sort but hey, he IS a politician! At least he was elected!

No one elected Anonymous! Their arrogance is staggering!

I could respect them if they simply wanted to blow the whistle on corruption and hypocrisy. If they have dirt on Vic or any other politician, then just publish it!

No, where Anonymous has gone too far is to use dirt as a blackmail lever. In effect, they want to control our elected parliament with their threats, to achieve THEIR ends!

Now, in this particular case, getting Vic's Bill killed is something I would agree with but NOT because Anonymous might have some power! I never elected anyone in Anonymous and have absolutely no input into their policies. Next time they might do something I DON'T agree with! What then? Can I vote them out?

This is the problem with any vigilantes. As I said, I would far rather have Anonymous just dump any and all dirt they have on any politicians of any party out into the open air.

By using blackmail, they have put themselves above the law of the land. To me, they are no different in character than the man they are attacking!

[Argus]

why am I not surprised, you are a harper supporter

For lack of a better alternative, yes, but I don't support this bill.

But I'm not a hysteric, either. Maybe you should grow up a little.

[Jack Weber]

Yeah, they're unique in the anals of Canadian political history.

When the Liberal government of Paul Martin introduced the Modernization of Investigative Techniques Act in November of 2005, it received comparatively little attention. As the columnist Thomas Walkom described it in the Toronto Star, the bill would require Internet and telephone companies “to install equipment that would allow the state to monitor all of their customers… [I]t would give police … the power to demand, without the need for court warrants, any information that [these] companies keep on their customers — including addresses, passwords and credit card information.” The public safety minister at the time, Anne McLellan, was quoted to the effect that the police needed the new powers to go after terrorists and child pornographers.

Same old bill, new hysteria

Sayyyy, weren't most of you complaining so hysterically Liberal supporters?

Not I,sir...

My privacy is my privacy,regardless of politcal stripe...

That bill was equally odious...

[olpfan1]

Yeah, they're unique in the anals of Canadian political history.

When the Liberal government of Paul Martin introduced the Modernization of Investigative Techniques Act in November of 2005, it received comparatively little attention. As the columnist Thomas Walkom described it in the Toronto Star, the bill would require Internet and telephone companies “to install equipment that would allow the state to monitor all of their customers… [I]t would give police … the power to demand, without the need for court warrants, any information that [these] companies keep on their customers — including addresses, passwords and credit card information.” The public safety minister at the time, Anne McLellan, was quoted to the effect that the police needed the new powers to go after terrorists and child pornographers.

Same old bill, new hysteria

Sayyyy, weren't most of you complaining so hysterically Liberal supporters?

The internet was just beginning to catch on then... we werent internet crazy then like we are now
canadians spend more time online now than any other country

was facebook / twitter around then? no
was anonymous? no