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[capricorn]

what? You don't think once the screws are tightened, Sona won't sing to protect his lily white?

Do follow the conversation waldo. It is Lib staffer Carroll punked and I were discussing, not Sona.

[waldo]

Do follow the conversation waldo. It is Lib staffer Carroll punked and I were discussing, not Sona.

no, it was a purposeful comment that you bit on. It's exactly what has been thrown back by Conservative supporters to diminish the role of Sona... to push it all off on one low-level guy conveniently thrown under the bus... with the cursory come-back, your like come-back, that, "we'll never know if it goes higher".

in any case, your deflection is noted... so let me ask again about that missing Harper apology to the House for Sona's actions. Any updates?

[punked]

no, it was a purposeful comment that you bit on. It's exactly what has been thrown back by Conservative supporters to diminish the role of Sona... to push it all off on one low-level guy conveniently thrown under the bus... with the cursory come-back, your like come-back, that, "we'll never know if it goes higher".

in any case, your deflection is noted... so let me ask again about that missing Harper apology to the House for Sona's actions. Any updates?

He wont sing. Even if he gets some extreme penalty like 5 years in prison he will be promised to be more then compensated when he gets out. Heck look where G. Gordon Liddy is after Watergate.

[PIK]

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Edited by PIK, 28 February 2012 - 09:45 AM.

[capricorn]

no, it was a purposeful comment that you bit on.

waldo the mind reader.

[Wild Bill]

no, it was a purposeful comment that you bit on. It's exactly what has been thrown back by Conservative supporters to diminish the role of Sona... to push it all off on one low-level guy conveniently thrown under the bus... with the cursory come-back, your like come-back, that, "we'll never know if it goes higher".

in any case, your deflection is noted... so let me ask again about that missing Harper apology to the House for Sona's actions. Any updates?

Waldo, how can he apologize if he doesn't know if he or his party actually did something wrong?

True, he may know and just be faking it but either way, what is he supposed to say?

"I don't believe we've done anything wrong but if we did I'm sorry!"

I mean really, doesn't that sound more like a cliche modern liberal?

Or your typical polite and apologetic Canadian!

[waldo]

Waldo, how can he apologize if he doesn't know if he or his party actually did something wrong?

no, the comment made reflects on the 'apology distinctions' in regards Sona vs. Carroll. Rae comes forward to the House revealing Carroll as the culprit and Rae offers an apology. Sona is thrown under the bus once the investigation starts honing in... and Sona is fired. Where's the comparable Harper apology in association with the Sona firing?

[Wild Bill]

no, the comment made reflects on the 'apology distinctions' in regards Sona vs. Carroll. Rae comes forward to the House revealing Carroll as the culprit and Rae offers an apology. Sona is thrown under the bus once the investigation starts honing in... and Sona is fired. Where's the comparable Harper apology in association with the Sona firing?

I thought Sona was fired for messing with a disputed ballot box location. Carroll was fired for an invasion of privacy.

Is it your position that the two are morally equivalent?

Or is it enough that the two names contained some of the same letters?

[punked]

I thought Sona was fired for messing with a disputed ballot box location. Carroll was fired for an invasion of privacy.

Is it your position that the two are morally equivalent?

Or is it enough that the two names contained some of the same letters?

Nope he was kept on after messing with the ballot boxes, and hired by the party after the election. He was canned for the Robo calls remember?

[waldo]

I thought Sona was fired for messing with a disputed ballot box location. Carroll was fired for an invasion of privacy.

Is it your position that the two are morally equivalent?

Or is it enough that the two names contained some of the same letters?

what invasion of privacy? As I understand it, as I read the varying analysis, anything on Vikileaks was so-called public knowledge.

but really, what are you about? Sona's Guelph ballot box antics were well established back during the election campaign... are you seriously now claiming that the recent days firing of Sona reflects back to the 9months+ dated Guelph incident?

[Wild Bill]

what invasion of privacy? As I understand it, as I read the varying analysis, anything on Vikileaks was so-called public knowledge.

but really, what are you about? Sona's Guelph ballot box antics were well established back during the election campaign... are you seriously now claiming that the recent days firing of Sona reflects back to the 9months+ dated Guelph incident?

Frankly, there's so much monkeypoo flying in all directions that I'm losing track!

Excuse me, I have to get some more popcorn.

[Topaz]

Carroll's been found out and he's gone, its up to Vic to do anything more to him BUT Sona is in a better position because IF he knows anything more about who is behind this and the thoughts of going to prison and becoming someone elses wife, as they say, and being offered reduced jail time, I think he point the finger and by doing this he could become a bit of a hero to be the person who finally proves how dirty the party really is.

[punked]

Carroll's been found out and he's gone, its up to Vic to do anything more to him BUT Sona is in a better position because IF he knows anything more about who is behind this and the thoughts of going to prison and becoming someone elses wife, as they say, and being offered reduced jail time, I think he point the finger and by doing this he could become a bit of a hero to be the person who finally proves how dirty the party really is.

There is no mandatory minimum for stealing an election. This guy will land on his feet the Conservatives will make sure of it.

[olpfan1]

There is no mandatory minimum for stealing an election. This guy will land on his feet the Conservatives will make sure of it.

They are probably paying him to keep quiet.. has anyone even tried finding him? he's probably back home in new jersey laying low

[Vendetta]

Punked, the vikileaks "scandal" is nowhere near the scope of the robocall election fraud. All the vikileaks stuff was already pretty widely known in MB and very easy to aquire court records. Anyone can set up a twitter account in about 5 mins and it is easy to believe that he acted alone. The robocalls were a massive election fraud scheme that covers dozens of ridings and had to be coordinated to have access to all the voter identification info collected by the Conservative party to have carried out this crime. Rae took responsibility even though it is very unlikely that he could have had knowledge of who was behind vikileaks and he looks like a bigger man for it. All the Cons have to say in regards to their massive electoral fraud scheme is "prove it", and "catch me if you can"!