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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:25 AM
If you're unaware, Gingrich decided not to contest the delegate count. Your story again, is old and outdated.Again not official Shady. Don't believe me? How about the Huffington Post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/02/newt-gingrich-florida-convention_n_1249908.html
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:28 AM
I agree. If he loses Michigan, the campaign will take on a new tone, and he'll probably do poorly on Super Tuesday. He really needs to win Michigan, even if it's by the skin of his teeth. If he wins both primaries tonight, the nomination should be his by the end of March. Especially when winner take all states like California vote, which has about 150 delegates alone.I'm saying that Romney should at least have an advantage there. I don't think it is a huge stronghold for him but if he loses it, in my opinion, it can't be a good sign for his campaign.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:32 AM
In case you are unaware anyone can bring a motion to the floor of a Convention especially someone with lots and lots of delegates. If you think that if come down a few delegates that this wont be an issue then you are a fool.If you're unaware, Gingrich decided not to contest the delegate count. Your story again, is old and outdated.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:34 AM
If it take till California votes to wrap this up then Republicans wont have a hope in hell.I agree. If he loses Michigan, the campaign will take on a new tone, and he'll probably do poorly on Super Tuesday. He really needs to win Michigan, even if it's by the skin of his teeth. If he wins both primaries tonight, the nomination should be his by the end of March. Especially when winner take all states like California vote, which has about 150 delegates alone.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:16 AM
The only way Romney isn't going to take Michigan is if enough of the voters who aren't Republican vote for Santorum to hurt Romney/the Republicans' chance of winning - and that idea is circulating about the state. Santorum isn't more representative of the state - and Romney is a big name here. Not taking Michigan could hurt him.I'm saying that Romney should at least have an advantage there. I don't think it is a huge stronghold for him but if he loses it, in my opinion, it can't be a good sign for his campaign.
I agree that the state is more blue collar and might be more in line with Santorum in some respects and I think the number of evangelicals there is under appreciated and while I see your point I don't think the Harper/Toronto comparison fits unless Harper's dad was Premier of Ontario and a successful businessman there.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:28 AM
The only way Romney isn't going to take Michigan is if enough of the voters who aren't Republican vote for Santorum to hurt Romney/the Republicans' chance of winning - and that idea is circulating about the state. Santorum isn't more representative of the state - and Romney is a big name here. Not taking Michigan could hurt him.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:41 AM
If it take till California votes to wrap this up then Republicans wont have a hope in hell.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:42 AM
I don't think that they think Santorum will win the nomination, but rather that Romney's losing Michigan could be used to hurt him during his campaign after he's given the nomination - so it's not so much that the Dems are wishing that Santorum would be the Rep. candidate .... I honestly don't think that most people think that will happen. But if Romney can't get the majority vote needed to win the nomination, if he can't even take Michigan, if it has to go to a convention vote, it would weaken the Republican candidate - ie: Romney, most likely.I'm sure some people will jump down my throat for saying this but I'm not convinced that Obama would beat Santorum as easily as Dems think. I was with this line of thinking at first and there is no doubt that Santorum's mishandling of the religious issues/talk would hurt him in a general election but I think Dems should be careful for what they wish for.
Edited by American Woman, 28 February 2012 - 11:47 AM.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:13 PM
I slightly disagree. I tend to agree with you overall, but they certainly have a chance, albeit a small one. 6 months in politics is an eternity. After all, even Reagan was behind Carter by double-digits all the way until October.They already don't have a hope in hell.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:34 PM
I have to wonder why some of the candidates are even trying so hard - the person who wins the nomination and loses the election likely won't get another shot at it; I would think that they would rather wait for the 2016 election, when there's no incumbent to go up against.They already don't have a hope in hell.
Edited by American Woman, 28 February 2012 - 12:35 PM.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:59 PM
I don't think that they think Santorum will win the nomination, but rather that Romney's losing Michigan could be used to hurt him during his campaign after he's given the nomination - so it's not so much that the Dems are wishing that Santorum would be the Rep. candidate .... I honestly don't think that most people think that will happen. But if Romney can't get the majority vote needed to win the nomination, if he can't even take Michigan, if it has to go to a convention vote, it would weaken the Republican candidate - ie: Romney, most likely.
I slightly disagree. I tend to agree with you overall, but they certainly have a chance, albeit a small one. 6 months in politics is an eternity. After all, even Reagan was behind Carter by double-digits all the way until October.
This is why Obama is beatable, even though he's a favourite to win...
I have to wonder why some of the candidates are even trying so hard - the person who wins the nomination and loses the election likely won't get another shot at it; I would think that they would rather wait for the 2016 election, when there's no incumbent to go up against.
Shady, Its a 100% guaranteed loss for the religious zealots party
Edited by j44, 28 February 2012 - 01:00 PM.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:32 PM
Not if the economy goes downhill.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:49 PM
Perhaps the low voter turnout will work in Romney's favor ...Voter turn out is down again today in Mich. Romney is really bringing out the base eh Shady?
