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[capricorn]

But this is odd and the only logical conclusion that I can draw from this action is that they are concerned about their support going back to the liberals.

If you want to understand the motives behind this Rae ad, read this analysis by a well known Liberal blogger.

Jeff Jedras: Tories toss a well-aimed grenade into Liberal tent

[Shady]

Running attack ads against Bob Rae is not "publicly criticizing our government." In case you weren't aware, the Tories formed the government in the last election.

So one can only criticize members of the majority? Riiight.

[Shady]

I've been discarding requests for a donation since the last time I sent in a cheque. Learning about the anti-Rae ad motivates me to donate again. Funny that.

The anti-Rae ad was motivation, but more than that is the anti-free speech response by members of this forum. I'm going online right now to donate $100 dollars. Thanks cybercoma, thanks dre, for the extra push.

[Shakeyhands]

The anti-Rae ad was motivation, but more than that is the anti-free speech response by members of this forum. I'm going online right now to donate $100 dollars. Thanks cybercoma, thanks dre, for the extra push.

phhbbt... I highly doubt you are.

[Shady]

phhbbt... I highly doubt you are.

Already did. I used my Mastercard. It was quite easy.

[Shakeyhands]

If you want to understand the motives behind this Rae ad, read this analysis by a well known Liberal blogger.

Jeff Jedras: Tories toss a well-aimed grenade into Liberal tent

Interesting article, thanks for the link.

I LOVE the caption under the picture of Harper. Hilarious.

[Shakeyhands]

Already did. I used my Mastercard. It was quite easy.

Pic or it didn't happen.

[noahbody]

If you want to understand the motives behind this Rae ad, read this analysis by a well known Liberal blogger.

I would assume the motive behind the ad is because they fear if Rae wins he might attempt to merge or form a coalition with the NDP. The money would be better spent sending their "war machine" to marketing school and to buy better sandwiches for their focus groups.

[Newfoundlander]

The Conservatives have more money then they know what to do with. Their attack against Rae is brilliant because it doesn't just hurt him personally but it causes problems for the Liberals internally.

I'm willing to bet that the Consrvatives already have research done for attack ads against all the frontrunners in the NDP leadership campaign and that it will only be a matter of getting it filmed once the leader is decided.

[capricorn]

I would assume the motive behind the ad is because they fear if Rae wins he might attempt to merge or form a coalition with the NDP.

I don't think it's as simple as that.

Noah, one thing this ad does is spark a discussion among Liberals about whether it is wise to spend money defending an interim Leader, or reserve the funds for a time when they have a permanent leader. It's no secret that Liberal insiders want Rae to come clean on his intentions so that other contenders can plan accordingly.

If Rae truly held the good of the Liberal Party top of mind, why is he acting in a manner that causes divisions within the party? IMO, he is holding back the Liberal Party from making any headway.

To some, such ads may not seem to make sense but successful politics is played as a long game. It's time the Liberals got in the game and Rae is in the way of that objective.

Edited by capricorn, 20 March 2012 - 10:28 AM.

[Shakeyhands]

If Rae truly held the good of the Liberal Party top of mind, why is he acting in a manner that causes divisions within the party? IMO, he is holding back the Liberal Party from making any headway.

Who says he is? IMHO, he is far and away the best choice for both positions, and frankly that's the position of a lot of liberal supporters known to me.

[Newfoundlander]

Who says he is? IMHO, he is far and away the best choice for both positions, and frankly that's the position of a lot of liberal supporters known to me.

If he's the best then why won't he come clean and say he's running, publicly?

I agree that Rae is just hurting the party by not letting his intentions known.

Edited by Newfoundlander, 20 March 2012 - 10:40 AM.

[Shakeyhands]

If he's the best then why won't he come clean and say he's running, publicly?

I agree that Rae is just hurting the party by not letting his intentions known.

Why would he? Why would the party want him to? The convention isn't for another year and change and as far as I know, Rae serves at the Boards pleasure and with the support of a majority of Senators.

Edited by Shakeyhands, 20 March 2012 - 11:50 AM.

[Newfoundlander]

Why would he? Why would the party want him to? The convention isn't for another year and change and as far as I know, Rae serves at the Boards pleasure and with the support of a majority of Senators.

So he should just go around continuing to lie to everyone? All Rae is doing is trying to screw over his potential competition for the leadership and make himself look good so he doesn't have any competition. Rae is likable but he is only in it for himself.

[Jack Weber]

Pic or it didn't happen.

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