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[stopstaaron]

Just pasted the highlights, it's still really discouraging that the number is only 54 % of Americans think religion should be kept out of politics. It should be near the 80 % + area

http://usnews.msnbc....-about-religion

In an election campaign season in which issues such as birth control and gay marriage have made headlines, a growing number of Americans think political leaders are talking too much religion, according to a new national survey.

Nearly four in 10 Americans (38 percent) say there has been too much expression of religious faith and prayer from political leaders -- an all-time high since the Pew Research Center began asking the question more than a decade ago. Thirty percent say there has been too little.

Most Americans (54 percent) continue to say that churches and other houses of worship should keep out of politics

That's also an about-face from 2006, when 51 percent of Americans believed churches should speak out and 46 percent said they should keep quiet.

Fifty-seven percent of Republican and Republican-leaning voters who favor Mitt Romney (a Mormon) for the presidential nomination say churches should keep out of political matters. By contrast, 60 percent of GOP voters who support Rick Santorum (a devout Catholic) say that churches and other houses of worship should express their views on social and political questions.

And while more than half (55 percent) of Santorum’s supporters say there is too little expression of religious faith and prayer by political leaders, just one in four (24 percent) of Romney’s backers agree.

[stopstaaron]

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Edited by stopstaaron, 22 March 2012 - 12:27 PM.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just pasted the highlights, it's still really discouraging that the number is only 54 % of Americans think religion should be kept out of politics. It should be near the 80 % + area

No, it's just about what it should be for a conservative nation. The US Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Hell, Canada's Constitution Act favors two religions over all others.

[stopstaaron]

No, it's just about what it should be for a conservative nation. The US Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Hell, Canada's Constitution Act favors two religions over all others.

I wouldn't consider U.S a conservative nation, I think it is half a liberal nation and half a conservative nation
split down the middle

[bush_cheney2004]

I wouldn't consider U.S a conservative nation, I think it is half a liberal nation and half a conservative nation
split down the middle

You can consider it whatever you wish, but that is not the case at all. What do you base your conclusion on? American television and other media?


Gallup Poll

[stopstaaron]

You can consider it whatever you wish, but that is not the case at all. What do you base your conclusion on? American television and other media?


Gallup Poll

Maybe you're right, the most liberal states seem to be the NE and NW states .. is that a coincidence that the most liberal states are next to the most liberal provinces of canada?

[bush_cheney2004]

Maybe you're right, the most liberal states seem to be the NE and NW states .. is that a coincidence that the most liberal states are next to the most liberal provinces of canada?

No coincidence at all, as California, Hawaii, and Rhode Island are not next to a liberal province.

Edited by bush_cheney2004, 22 March 2012 - 07:52 PM.

[stopstaaron]

No coincidence at all, as California, Hawaii, and Rhode Island are not next to a liberal province.

California, Hawaii, Rhode Island aren't all that liberal in my eyes

[bush_cheney2004]

California, Hawaii, Rhode Island aren't all that liberal in my eyes

Then clearly you do not understand what it means to be liberal or conservative in the United States. Comparisons to Canadian provinces are meaningless.

[stopstaaron]

Then clearly you do not understand what it means to be liberal or conservative in the United States. Comparisons to Canadian provinces are meaningless.

What policies make these states liberal? Hawaii?! I've never heard of Hawaii ever mentioned as being liberal

[bush_cheney2004]

What policies make these states liberal? Hawaii?! I've never heard of Hawaii ever mentioned as being liberal

Oh really? Hawaii was working on same gender marriage years before any Canadian province, where gays were still getting beat up.

[stopstaaron]

Oh really? Hawaii was working on same gender marriage years before any Canadian province, where gays were still getting beat up.

really? in Ontario it was in the courts starting in 1999... Hawaii has yet to even legalize same sex marriage

[bush_cheney2004]

really? in Ontario it was in the courts starting in 1999... Hawaii has yet to even legalize same sex marriage

Sorry...you lose. Hawaii was working on it in court four years earlier...1995.

[stopstaaron]

Sorry...you lose. Hawaii was working on it in court four years earlier...1995.

obviously we didn't lose as it never went anywhere it seems

[bush_cheney2004]

obviously we didn't lose as it never went anywhere it seems

No, I said you lose, as Hawaii is clearly a liberal state for that and several other reasons. No province around for thousands of miles, and the weather is a lot better than anywhere in Canada!