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[stopstaaron]

and it's not as big a deal as it might be somewhere else.

54 % think its a big deal

[stopstaaron]

You have mainstream politicians whom want to ban contraceptives due to their religious beliefs
That is worrying .. politicians whom make remarks like that should be shunned by the populace, not praised

[stopstaaron]

You have politicians who believe a person can "pray the gay away"

AW please don't make it sound like your country doesn't have a problem with religion in politics
you have a BIG problem

[WLDB]

Plus there was Rick Perry's pray rally for rain.

[American Woman]

Plus there was Rick Perry's pray rally for rain.

Rick Perry isn't going to be the GOP candidate.

[stopstaaron]

Rick Perry isn't going to be the GOP candidate.

Not the point... none of your top politicians should be saying pray the gay away, holding pray for rain rallies... talking bout banning contraceptives
wanting to put abortion doctors information on the internet .. these are not things a sane person would do or suggest

your countrys politicians are freaking insane

Edited by stopstaaron, 23 March 2012 - 04:02 PM.

[-TSS-]

This is an issue there will never be any agreement on. Those who say that religion and politics should be kept apart think that any religion in politics is too much. Those who are religious think that religious values are nowhere near enough represented in politics.

I remember a survey some time ago where it was shown which factors with candidates would stop people from voting for them. Being African-American was one of the bottom of the list of factors, only about 20% of the respondents said that they could never under any circumstances vote for an African-American candidate. Even being female had slightly more opposition as a factor for a candidate. Therefore, when a female gets elected President there will be hype again but it is really much ado about nothing.

For other factors the percentage of people who were against rose fast as an open gay was opposed by a majority, being Jewish was also very high on that list but the list was topped easily by one factor: Being a declared atheist was the biggest factor stopping people under any circumstances voting for such a candidate.

I must look it up if I can find that survey somewhere.

[American Woman]

Whatever your survey says, the odds of the U.S. having an atheist president are much higher than the odds of Canada having a Catholic head of state - or even a head of state with a catholic spouse. The odds of that happening are zilch.

[bush_cheney2004]

Not the point... none of your top politicians should be saying pray the gay away, holding pray for rain rallies... talking bout banning contraceptives
wanting to put abortion doctors information on the internet .. these are not things a sane person would do or suggest

But clearly they do and have the right to do it, sane or not. No worse than stomping on a George Bush doll or saying, "Damn Americans, I hate those bastards".

your countrys politicians are freaking insane

Yet you watch them and the process very closely. Most Americans don't care what Canada's politicians do....or how they do it.

[stopstaaron]

Whatever your survey says, the odds of the U.S. having an atheist president are much higher than the odds of Canada having a Catholic head of state - or even a head of state with a catholic spouse. The odds of that happening are zilch.

rofl US will not have an athiest president for at least 30 years

[msj]

rofl US will not have an athiest president for at least 30 years

What AW means is that our head of state can not be a Catholic because our head of state is the Queen (for now - soon enough to be some King Charles or whoever).

You will be forgiven for making the assumption that our head of state is effectively our Prime Minister since he is the one who is democratically elected and effectively rules the country until another democratically elected Prime Minister wins power.

Oh no. In Canada our head of state is an Anglican monarch.

Save yourself the trouble of trying to debate AW on this one.

She's a waste of time.....

[bush_cheney2004]

...Save yourself the trouble of trying to debate AW on this one.

She's a waste of time.....

That's because AW is right....and the Canadian PM is not elected. The position is not even defined in the Constitution Act.

[American Woman]

That's because AW is right....and the Canadian PM is not elected. The position is not even defined in the Constitution Act.

Yep. Nothing makes me more a "waste of time" than being right. And as you said, the PM isn't even elected, so it really doesn't matter what the Canadian public thinks about his/her religion.

[-TSS-]

Indeed, the anti-catholic laws were implemented in the UK some time in the 17th century. Incredible really that such obsolete laws have not been repealed.

On the other hand the institution of monarchy itself is obsolete but the reason it still exists is because the alternative is considered even worse. It has been said that monarchy is a system which does not work in theory but works well in practice.

[American Woman]

Indeed, the anti-catholic laws were implemented in the UK some time in the 17th century. Incredible really that such obsolete laws have not been repealed.

Exactly. They were implemented centuries ago but still in practice today. It's incredible that people who aren't protesting that, who are ok with that, have the gall to criticize Americans over polls regarding atheism and the presidency. What I said is a fact. As it stands, the U.S. will have an atheist president before Canada has a Catholic head of state - or even a head of state with a Catholic spouse.

On the other hand the institution of monarchy itself is obsolete but the reason it still exists is because the alternative is considered even worse. It has been said that monarchy is a system which does not work in theory but works well in practice.

It can't be obsolete and still exist. If "the alternative is even worse," then it's serving a purpose, which again, means it's not obsolete. As long as it's working "in practice," it's very much a part of the system. So again, why some Canadians are ok with that is beyond me, as those who are ok with it as they criticize Americans are a lost cause.