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[bleeding heart]

in its hay day Saturday night live was full of Canadians ... just saying

Yes, Canadians have done very well in the American entertainment sector. That's yet another point in favour of it.

[stopstaaron]

Yes, Canadians have done very well in the American entertainment sector. That's yet another point in favour of it.

Canadians have been involved heavily in the entertainment sector..I don't see how then you could just call it "American entertainment sector" when a good portion of it is Canadian whether its behind the scenes or in front

Edited by stopstaaron, 24 March 2012 - 11:41 AM.

[bush_cheney2004]

...In a way it's a chicken and egg argument, maybe, since what we problematically term "American culture" is a hodge-podge of influences, as befits the very nature of the Republic. Culturally, it ingests influences from everywhere, then makes it their own. (And its got its own, unique-from-the-genesis cultural aspects as well, which are also tossed into the mix.)

Bravo....you have distilled the multifaceted nature of American culture that belies the neurotic paranoia on display by some Canadians and domestic policies. America is a nation built by natives, immigrants, and slaves!

[bush_cheney2004]

Canadians have been involved heavily in the entertainment sector..I don't see how then you could just call it "American entertainment sector" when a good portion of it is Canadian whether its behind the scenes or in front

The same way that Canada chooses to define Canadian culture in terms of content.

[bush_cheney2004]

of course not, but that doesn't take anything away, the funniest Americans are/were Canadians

That's not true....for instance, Richard Pryor sure as hell wasn't Canadian. Neither were Lenny Bruce or George Carlin.

Edited by bush_cheney2004, 24 March 2012 - 11:44 AM.

[stopstaaron]

That's not true....for instance, Richard Pryor sure as hell wasn't Canadian.

Don't know him

[bush_cheney2004]

Don't know him

Then you have no idea who the greatest American comics were/are. That's OK....you are not an American! This just exemplifies the assumed knowledge of "American culture" that some Canadians have.

Edited by bush_cheney2004, 24 March 2012 - 11:47 AM.

[stopstaaron]

Then you have no idea who the greatest American comics were/are. That's OK....you are not an American!

Reading his wikipedia, he's a black man who made a lot of racial observations .. oh great, one of them, I don't care much for the comedians who are always talking about race.. they are being racist themselves

[bush_cheney2004]

Reading his wikipedia, he's a black man who made a lot of racial observations .. oh great, one of them, I don't care much for the comedians who are always talking about race.. they are being racist themselves

Again, you are only displaying your complete disconnect with the totality of American media and performers, or why "race comics" like Dick Gregory, Richard Pryor, or Red Foxx are socially and politically important figures. Americans don't just watch white Canadians from failed comedy troups in Vancouver or Toronto.

Edited by bush_cheney2004, 24 March 2012 - 11:53 AM.

[stopstaaron]

Again, you are only displaying your complete disconnect with the totality of American media and performers. Americans don't just watch white Canadians from failed comedy troups in Vancouver or Toronto.

yes, apparently race is a big deal in america.. while here it's not as noticeable

[bush_cheney2004]

yes, apparently race is a big deal in america.. while here it's not as noticeable

It is if you are a First Nation's native. Or Asian. Or black. Or......

[stopstaaron]

It is if you are a First Nation's native. Or Asian. Or black. Or......

Nobody has any issues with Asians or Black people here, i dont know, ive never seen or heard anything, anyways, im done with racial conservations
im not at all interested in this

Edited by stopstaaron, 24 March 2012 - 11:59 AM.

[bush_cheney2004]

Nobody has any issues with Asians or Black people here, i dont know, ive never seen or heard anything, anyways, im done with racial conservations
im not at all interested in this

Obviously...thank you for proving my point. I'm sorry if it makes you feel uncomfortable!

[bleeding heart]

Canadians have been involved heavily in the entertainment sector..I don't see how then you could just call it "American entertainment sector" when a good portion of it is Canadian whether its behind the scenes or in front

I get what you mean. But you talked about the Can/con of SNL, which is an American production.

Sure, it's nominally Canadian Lorne Michaels' baby...but from what I understand, the primary creative impulse was of American writer Michael O'Donoghue. (A radical lefty, just incidentally.)

Hell, I'm not disparaging the Canadian creative elements of SNL (though I do disparage SNL generally, as inhabiting a world of diminishing comedic returns); I'm only not disparaging the American elements of it.

[bush_cheney2004]

...Hell, I'm not disparaging the Canadian creative elements of SNL (though I do disparage SNL generally, as inhabiting a world of diminishing comedic returns); I'm only not disparaging the American elements of it.

Agreed....the absence of "Canadian content" in that very American production has led to the dreck we see (or choose not to see) today.