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[The_Squid]

What a difference between the happy Easter thread and the happy Passover thread. For whatever reason, the happy Easter thread has galvanized the anti-Christian bigots of the forum, insulting, demeaning, and in general finding some way to crap on the Christian holiday. For whatever reason, Jewish holiday has been spared. Makes you wonder.

It does make one wonder.... Perhaps Jews on this forum are nice and the Christians are assholes? I don't know. Any other theories?

[jbg]

It does make one wonder.... Perhaps Jews on this forum are nice and the Christians are assholes? I don't know. Any other theories?

Well I am the Jewish poster on this forum. To my knowledge the only one.

[The_Squid]

Well I am the Jewish poster on this forum. To my knowledge the only one.

Now, does that prove my theory, or refute it???

[TheNewTeddy]

I have Conservative MPs, Liberal MPs, NDP MPs, Journalists, and Personal Friends on my Twitter. Many of them mentioned Passover. The first to mention Easter was Elizabeth May.

[bleeding heart]

There have been reams of books on the subject including Denis Prager's "Why the Jews". I suspect that it's easy to revile an immigrant, ethnic or cultural group that does not participate in society and is unsuccessful. Muslims and, in Europe, gypsies (or Roma) fit that description. The Jews are a harder case for a number of reasons. The Jews are willing to join society, are by and large extremely successful and play by the rules. Yet the Jews refuse to recognize the supremacy of "majority" group.


II suspect the relationship, on balance, is more "love-hate" than pure hatred

That's interesting. I think you might be on to something here.

Society wants the Jews' ability to "get things done" but fears and envies the Jews' fruits of their successes.

If this is so, I'd have to reiterate that it sounds like a kind of pathology. There'd be no reason to fear Jewish success unless there was some notion of a competition at hand, and let's just say I'm not seeing it.

[bleeding heart]

What a difference between the happy Easter thread and the happy Passover thread. For whatever reason, the happy Easter thread has galvanized the anti-Christian bigots of the forum, insulting, demeaning, and in general finding some way to crap on the Christian holiday. For whatever reason, Jewish holiday has been spared. Makes you wonder.

Well, so much for your theory that people are specifically giving Muslims a pass.

To the extent that Christianity gets hit harder on this forum than the others, I suspect it has a lot to do with the predominance of Christianity in this society over the other religions. If this were a society with something else as the primary faith, then perhaps that would receive the bulk of the criticism.

I see no problem with that, especially since the touted victimhood of Christians is a laughable concept. Society-wide, atheists are held in a lot more suspicion and dark misapprehensions.

Edited by bleeding heart, 10 April 2012 - 03:53 AM.

[jbg]

There have been reams of books on the subject including Denis Prager's "Why the Jews". I suspect that it's easy to revile an immigrant, ethnic or cultural group that does not participate in society and is unsuccessful. Muslims and, in Europe, gypsies (or Roma) fit that description. The Jews are a harder case for a number of reasons. The Jews are willing to join society, are by and large extremely successful and play by the rules. Yet the Jews refuse to recognize the supremacy of "majority" group.I suspect the relationship, on balance, is more "love-hate" than pure hatred in the "doitwell" sense, or the bud, dub, naomiglover sense.

That's interesting. I think you might be on to something here.

Thanks for recognizing that. It's obviously not a "fact", but rather a well-formed opinion. Societies have always discriminated against identifiable minorities or disadvantaged groups, whether it be recent immigrants, gays, First Nations, racial minorities or victims of mental illness. Even women, though not technically a minority, have suffered discrimination for the simple reason that it was and to some extent still is possible. People love to "pile on" and kick people when they are down. Makes them feel better.

That's tougher to do with the Jews, other than through forcible and, in our society illegal violence. The Jews have historically been successful well beyond their numbers, and that gives the "bully-types" conniptions.

Society wants the Jews' ability to "get things done" but fears and envies the Jews' fruits of their successes.

If this is so, I'd have to reiterate that it sounds like a kind of pathology. There'd be no reason to fear Jewish success unless there was some notion of a competition at hand, and let's just say I'm not seeing it.

I agree with you that I'm not a very scary person, and most Jews aren't. All the same, people want the fruits of success. The problem is that if they were unmotivated in school, or didn't have access to good schools, they are starting out behind the curve. The Jews have, with important individual exceptions and the partial group exception of Jews from the Levant, managed to position themselves as educated. When the schools suck, they arranged to learn and study themselves.Parents (including myself) do not tolerate apathy or sloth among their children. I do notice that many in other cultures are far more laid back about incomplete homework than my wife and I are.

[American Woman]

It does make one wonder.... Perhaps Jews on this forum are nice and the Christians are assholes? I don't know. Any other theories?

How about perhaps the atheists are assholes? That could never be, eh?

Edited by American Woman, 10 April 2012 - 10:41 AM.

[bleeding heart]

How about perhaps the atheists are assholes? That could never be, eh?

Christopher Hitchens was, that's for sure. But then, his close friends thought him a lovely person, so who's to say.....

[Peeves]

Like I've said before, I don't know how to read you. At any rate, that site lists the many synagogues in Canada for anyone who is interested.

Edited to add: Here's another - Jewish Canada

There are several in the Niagara Region not listed here.

[jbg]

There are several in the Niagara Region not listed here.

Interesting because my search of that site disclosed no synagogues in YU, NWT and NU, and only one in NL.

[The_Squid]

Interesting because my search of that site disclosed no synagogues in YU, NWT and NU, and only one in NL.

Aren't demographics a bitch! No Jews = no sinagogues. Why is this a surprise?

[Jack Weber]

Interesting because my search of that site disclosed no synagogues in YU, NWT and NU, and only one in NL.

Perhaps broadening your search to...I don't know...Areas of larger populations where Jews might be found in large enough numbers to warrant synagogues??

Just throwin' that one out there....

Or are intimating the Inuit are anti-Semitic?

Edited by Jack Weber, 10 April 2012 - 01:58 PM.

[Shady]

Well, so much for your theory that people are specifically giving Muslims a pass.

Yep, looks like Judaism gets a pass as well. Probably every other religion too. It's only Christianity that gets treated differently for whatever reason. Some might even call that a type of persecution, eh kimmy?

[American Woman]

There are several in the Niagara Region not listed here.

I don't doubt that there are many more all over Canada that are not listed, but the list clearly shows that contrary to the claim being made, there are many synagogues in Canada.