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#196 Topaz

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:28 PM

This is patently false...any "new candidate" is not invited to the Bilderberg meeting. This is just more Alex Jones Infowars nonsense.


No its not. I remember when Obama was running for president and all the press was on the Air Force one waiting for him to go to California and they took off without him because he had a meeting to go to, and later they media found out it was with the heads of Bilderberg.

Edited by Topaz, 07 June 2012 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:19 PM

No its not. I remember when Obama was running for president....



Then you don't remember that there were many people running for US president in 2008:


Barack Obama, U.S. Senator from Illinois
Hillary Clinton, U.S. Senator from New York
John Edwards, former U.S. Senator from North Carolina
Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico
Dennis Kucinich, U.S. Representative from Ohio
Joe Biden, U.S. Senator from Delaware
Mike Gravel, former U.S. Senator from Alaska
Christopher Dodd, U.S. Senator from Connecticut
Tom Vilsack, former Governor of Iowa
Evan Bayh, U.S. Senator from Indiana
John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona
Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas
Mitt Romney, former Governor of Massachusetts
Ron Paul, U.S. Representative from Texas
Fred Thompson, former U.S. Senator from Tennessee
Duncan Hunter, U.S. Representative from California
Rudy Giuliani, former Mayor of New York City
Alan Keyes, former U.S. ECOSOC Ambassador from Maryland
Tom Tancredo, U.S. Representative from Colorado
Sam Brownback, U.S. Senator from Kansas
Tommy Thompson, former Governor of Wisconsin
Jim Gilmore, former Governor of Virginia
Ralph Nader
Bob Barr
Chuck Baldwin
Cynthia McKinney


So how many were invited to Bilderberg meetings ?

Edited by bush_cheney2004, 07 June 2012 - 04:21 PM.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 03:54 AM

So is anyone still certain that Obama will win?

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 05:08 AM

So is anyone still certain that Obama will win?

Yep

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 06:51 AM

So is anyone still certain that Obama will win?

Pretty much.
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:56 AM

Pretty much.



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Posted 16 June 2012 - 10:26 AM

I figure it's either him or Romney.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 06:40 PM

What data is supporting this? It can't be the money raised over Romney, the polling data or the upswing in the economy/jobs. What am I missing?

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 02:40 PM

What am I missing?

The electoral college breakdown.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:25 AM

What data is supporting this? It can't be the money raised over Romney, the polling data or the upswing in the economy/jobs. What am I missing?

Actually, many highly reputable pollsters now have it basically a 50/50 toss up. In the last few months, InTrade has gone from Obama winning in the high 60s now down to the low 50s.

Anyways, anyone suggesting they absolutely know what will happen doesn't really know what they're talking about.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:26 AM

The real measure of what will happen will be after the conventions and the first debate.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:41 AM

The real measure of what will happen will be after the conventions and the first debate.


Debate between two people who no matter wins, will carry on the status quo.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:58 AM

Debate between two people who no matter wins, will carry on the status quo.

I disagree with your premise. I think both of them are very different. That's evident in their policies regarding entitlement reform, taxes, government spending, etc. It's lazy to pretend there's no difference.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:21 AM

I disagree with your premise. I think both of them are very different. That's evident in their policies regarding entitlement reform, taxes, government spending, etc. It's lazy to pretend there's no difference.

It's lazy to pretend anyone can change anything in the US with out Congress, at least 60 (today its more like 65) Senators and the Presidency. It just wont happen. Romeny wont be able to do anything.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:24 AM

It's lazy to pretend anyone can change anything in the US with out Congress, at least 60 (today its more like 65) Senators and the Presidency. It just wont happen. Romeny wont be able to do anything.

It takes leadership. Reagan didn't have 60 votes, either did Bush Sr, or Clinton, or George W. But they all had a much better rate of sucess than the current president. Why? Because he's not a leader.
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