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[Topaz]

Well, its seems the lobbyist for the gun owners in Canada got to Vic again. Apparently, a rules for storing ammo isn't going to happen but I don't understand the problem on this, if they still have to have the guns under lock and key, then can't the ammo be stored their too? http://www.montrealg...8140/story.html

[Manny]

Makes no sense to me. We heard about people putting bullets on train tracks, when we were kids. Bullets should be hard to get.

[Peeves]

Bullets should be in my gun near where I lie down or sit, or in my gun in my car when I travel, or in my gun in my pocket when I'm in a restaurant. The same with any other peaceful, non criminal type.

Why should only cops and criminals be armed? Cops can't protect, they only inspect or react or detect when they can get there. After the crime.

Criminals could give a shit about bullets and gun laws nor your safe storage. They might think twice if they knew we too were packing.

Edited by Peeves, 08 April 2012 - 08:37 AM.

[Argus]

Bullets should be in my gun near where I lay or sit, or in my gun in my car when I travel, or in my gun in my pocket when I'm in a restaurant. The same with any other peaceful, non criminal type.

Why should only cops and criminals be armed? Cops can't protect, they only inspect or react or detect when they can get there. After the crime.

Criminals could give a shit about bullets and gun laws nor your safe storage. They might think twice if they knew we too were packing.

Nobody should be armed except the police. Nobody. Anyone else caught with a gun in an urban setting ought to be sent to prison for a very long time. Hunters can pick up their guns on their way out of town.

I'm okay with rural folk having guns because a gun can be a necessary tool in a rural area. That is not the case in an urban area.

[cybercoma]

Nobody should be armed except the police. Nobody. Anyone else caught with a gun in an urban setting ought to be sent to prison for a very long time. Hunters can pick up their guns on their way out of town.

I'm okay with rural folk having guns because a gun can be a necessary tool in a rural area. That is not the case in an urban area.

Argus, you're an odd duck. The stuff I agree with you about, I really agree with you. The stuff I disagree with you about, I really disagree with you. Although we don't see eye-to-eye on everything, I like that you're principled.

[punked]

Nobody should be armed except the police. Nobody. Anyone else caught with a gun in an urban setting ought to be sent to prison for a very long time. Hunters can pick up their guns on their way out of town.

I'm okay with rural folk having guns because a gun can be a necessary tool in a rural area. That is not the case in an urban area.

No one is taking my gun away form me. I keep it safe, I treat it right, and I will never use it for violence.

Although if the people of Canada took this view point I would station my run at where ever we would the local gun depot I guess. Seems like an easy target though.

Edited by punked, 08 April 2012 - 08:50 AM.

[bleeding heart]

Argus, you're an odd duck. The stuff I agree with you about, I really agree with you. The stuff I disagree with you about, I really disagree with you. Although we don't see eye-to-eye on everything, I like that you're principled.

Principled?

I'm inclined to agree.

[Argus]

No one is taking my gun away form me. I keep it safe, I treat it right, and I will never use it for violence.

Sorry, is that your gun or your girlfriend you're talking about?

You might well be right, but the problem is when ten million people have them then you just know some are going to get drunk, some are going to get nuts, some are going to get robbed, etc. etc. So you don't make laws based on the good people but on the mass of people.

Although if the people of Canada took this view point I would station my run at where ever we would the local gun depot I guess. Seems like an easy target though.

Security would be fairly easily managed, and the cost vs having all those guns on the streets, well worth it. Besides, it is the strict laws which would help police things. If you get a year in jail for robbing a corner store but twenty years for robbing it with a gun, you'd probably decide not to use a gun.

Edited by Argus, 08 April 2012 - 09:14 AM.

[punked]

Sorry, is that your gun or your girlfriend you're talking about?

You might well be right, but the problem is when ten million people have them then you just know some are going to get drunk, some are going to get nuts, some are going to get robbed, etc. etc. So you don't make laws based on the good people but on the mass of people.



Security would be fairly easily managed, and the cost vs having all those guns on the streets, well worth it. Besides, it is the strict laws which would help police things. If you get a year in jail for robbing a corner store but twenty years for robbing it with a gun, you'd probably decide not to use a gun.

I could live with this.

[Shakeyhands]

Big deal, as a responsible gun owner with kids in the house I not only lock my guns and rifles so that they are not accessible, I also keep all shells and cartridges locked in a tool box. In fact even if I didn't have children in the house I would lock it all up.

The only people that would have a problem with this, law or not, are those with a sick fantasy that they'll shoot someone. These people should have their weapons confiscated for the simple reason that they are clearly stupid.

[stopstaaron]

Anybody whos gun or ammunition is stolen from their house should be barred from ever owning anymore firearms

[cybercoma]

Anybody whos gun or ammunition is stolen from their house should be barred from ever owning anymore firearms

Depending on the circumstances (ie, it's proven they were negligent) they are.

[Jack Weber]

Nobody should be armed except the police. Nobody. Anyone else caught with a gun in an urban setting ought to be sent to prison for a very long time. Hunters can pick up their guns on their way out of town.

I'm okay with rural folk having guns because a gun can be a necessary tool in a rural area. That is not the case in an urban area.

How can you be so completely lacking in lucidity on some subjects and be so crystal clear on others by tearing the cover off the ball...Like this one????

Is it all part of the wonderfulness of Argus?

Ya' nailed this one...

[Vendetta]

Nobody should be armed except the police. Nobody. Anyone else caught with a gun in an urban setting ought to be sent to prison for a very long time. Hunters can pick up their guns on their way out of town.

I'm okay with rural folk having guns because a gun can be a necessary tool in a rural area. That is not the case in an urban area.

I agree mostly with this except that I think everybody should be able to have a gun IN THEIR HOME.(unless they have a history of violence or mental instability) Nobody should be allowed to walk around carrying one in a city except cops. Where you store the gun and bullets in your own home is no business of the state. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a gun in your home for protection if you have to have it locked up and the bullets stored seperately. It would take cops half an hour to drive to my house if I had to call them. By that time some psycho could have killed my whole family. why shouldn't I be able to keep my gun in my headboard of my bed, with a full clip, where it will actually do some good? I don't like violations of civil liberties from either side of the political spectrum.

[Argus]

I agree mostly with this except that I think everybody should be able to have a gun IN THEIR HOME.(unless they have a history of violence or mental instability) Nobody should be allowed to walk around carrying one in a city except cops. Where you store the gun and bullets in your own home is no business of the state. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a gun in your home for protection if you have to have it locked up and the bullets stored seperately. It would take cops half an hour to drive to my house if I had to call them. By that time some psycho could have killed my whole family. why shouldn't I be able to keep my gun in my headboard of my bed, with a full clip, where it will actually do some good? I don't like violations of civil liberties from either side of the political spectrum.

The point of NOT having guns everywhere, and imposing severe punishments on those who possess and use firearms illegally is that most psychos won't be able to GET guns to murder your family.

And the reason it might take cops half an hour to get to your house is because we don't have nearly enough of them, because we pay them far too much money.