I'm not an apologist. Most of us aren't. We're just tired of the same song and dance every single day. I say, shit or get off the pot already. Let's see some actual evidence of these manufactured improprieties, or STFU.Kinda funny to read the Conservative Apoligists
In-and-Out Investigation Cost Canadians over $2.3 million
#31
Posted 10 April 2012 - 02:26 PM
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#32
Posted 10 April 2012 - 02:32 PM
That's hilarious coming from you.We're just tired of the same song and dance every single day.
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free and civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as their religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."
Thomas Jefferson
#37
Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:08 PM
They plead guilty. I'm not sure how much more evidence you need other than a guilty verdict in a case.Like I said. Shit or get off the pot.
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free and civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as their religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."
Thomas Jefferson
#38
Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:27 PM
Yes, and they paid the appropriate fines according to the law. Or is it a pound of flesh you're looking for?They plead guilty. I'm not sure how much more evidence you need other than a guilty verdict in a case.
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#39
Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:01 PM
It cost taxpayers more than $2.3 million to investigate the Conservatives fraudulent activities. Since this investigation resulted in a guilty plea, should the Conservative Party of Canada be required to pay back the Canadian taxpayers the cost of investigating their criminal activities?
No they should be disbanded and have all their assets remitted to the taxpayers.
Lets fight crime starting with the Organized Crime Syndicate ccalled the conservative party of Canada.
It is madness to let a party that clearly has violated election law with blatnat disregard, and a subsequent attempt to politically bypass issues of criminal and administrative to continue to exist.
it should be put to a grave, and taxpayers recover what it can of the money illegally obtained by the organization through fraud and other questionable practices.
The real trick is recovery of the billions of embezzled tax dollars that went to conservative slush funds.
Edited by MACKER, 10 April 2012 - 07:05 PM.
#43
Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:27 AM
I'm not an apologist. Most of us aren't. We're just tired of the same song and dance every single day. I say, shit or get off the pot already. Let's see some actual evidence of these manufactured improprieties, or STFU.
The In and Out is an admission of Guilt.
I realize your problem.. its the same problem the Chretien Liberals faced and many many of their supporters lived in the same land of denial that is now the comfy home of Conservative Lapdogs..
There is nothing wrong with wanting to clean up corruption, and illegal practices..kinda what the Reform Party used to campaign on.
But Harper Conservatives tend to follow the Mulroney, Chretien path..
Edited by madmax, 11 April 2012 - 08:27 AM.
#44
Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:34 AM
Source?
The In and Out scheme was brilliant double dipping into the taxpayers pockets..
Riding Association Campaign receives $10,000 from Federal Party.
Riding Association Gives back 10,000 to Federal Party.. Federal Party Spends $10,000 as Election Expense
Come Election Expense time.. the Riding Association Campain lists the $10,000 as election Expense
Federal Party puts in 10,000 for Tax Credit
Provincial Riding Association puts in for 10,000 for Tax Credit.
Federal Party hides total election expenditures.. while double dipping
#45
Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:29 AM
Just try it. Seriously. Go ahead, make my day.
Sure.
Voters did it in 1991. I don't see it any different 2012.
Only this time its for being stupid and criminal not just stupid.
I'm only saying invalidate the ridings that were effected by the Robocalls and any member who was involved in in and out to be barred from public office, as is stipulated in the act for election fraud.
And to disband the party as is stipulated for a party accused of violating election law.
It is only the law. It is no different than asking the courts to sentence someone who premeditates murder and carrys it out then gets caught in the act. I don't think Dane law is all that is required here, I think we need to actually follow the law in regard to disbanding the party takings its ill gotten assets, and removing the people who aided and abetted the in and out scheme, in some cases publicly acknowledging as such.
The conservative party of Canada did not hide this fact after it was discovered only stating it wasn't illegal, but it was. Ignorance of the law, and i don't think that is the case here, should not be defence against repercussions of breaking the law. Otherwise every criminal who wasn't a lawyer would walk scot free and I don't think that is the way law is intended to function.
If the party wants tough on crime they should start with their own corrupt selves and save the rest of Canada from their illegitimacy and criminal endevours. People like Stephen Harper should be rotting in jail for fraud, and many many counts of fraud. Being a politician shouldn't exempt you from being subject to criminal law. They are crooks and liars.
Edited by MACKER, 11 April 2012 - 10:42 AM.










