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#1 Topaz

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:08 AM

I don't understand why they would do this but about 1100-1200 agents are losing their jobs at the border, so whose going to look after this, the US?? So I guess we better get ready for more drugs and guns getting into Canada and very long lines, which the truckers won't like. http://ca.news.yahoo...-091152814.html

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:09 AM

I don't understand why they would do this but about 1100-1200 agents are losing their jobs at the border,


No they aren't.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:46 AM

It's going to be roughly 400 front-line agents. However, by the time people are let go and they bump other positions based on seniority and whatnot, it's tough to say what the impact will be.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:47 AM

It's going to be roughly 400 front-line agents. However, by the time people are let go and they bump other positions based on seniority and whatnot, it's tough to say what the impact will be.


Much of that reduction will be achieved by closing small, underused crossings, I think. Others will come from the reduction in redundant positions.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:47 AM

I'll tell you something though. This isn't the news Windsor, ON needs after the last 10 years of de-industrialization. Now those with border services jobs there are in trouble.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:50 AM

I'll tell you something though. This isn't the news Windsor, ON needs after the last 10 years of de-industrialization. Now those with border services jobs there are in trouble.


I wouldn't expect most of the losses to come from Windsor..and things are finally picking up there again. The population is actually growing now.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

Much of that reduction will be achieved by closing small, underused crossings, I think. Others will come from the reduction in redundant positions.

Good, then we won't have to stop at the border in those crossings in the rural Prairie provinces. This will make crossing to & from the US as it was pre 1960, saving us time & waiting frustrations. I wonder if this will affect the crossing on the MonAlta highway?
We used to go hunting in that area but never knew whether we were hunting Canadian or American Pronghorns, and I guess the antelope never cared either :lol:

Edited by Tilter, 12 April 2012 - 11:22 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:31 AM

Good, then we won't have to stop at the border in those crossings in the rural Prairie provinces. This will make crossing to & from the US as it was pre 1960, saving us time & waiting frustrations. I wonder if this will affect the crossing on the MonAlta highway?


There won't be any roads left to drive across.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:57 AM

There won't be any roads left to drive across.

It's the Prairies son, we don't need any stinking roads.

This isn't the news Windsor, ON needs after the last 10 years of de-industrialization. Now those with border services jobs there are in trouble.

The number of civil service jobs should be based on the need for the service, not the persons need for a job.
The government should do something.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:27 PM

There won't be any roads left to drive across.

Out there you don"t need roads. Didn't have many then I don't expect any FWD would have a lot of trouble crossing & recrossing the border now.
By the way Topaz--- the border will not be reduced even by a Kilometre--- It'll stay the same till the 2 countries unite.

Edited by Tilter, 12 April 2012 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

Out there you don"t need roads. Didn't have many then I don't expect any FWD would have a lot of trouble crossing & recrossing the border now.
By the way Topaz--- the border will not be reduced even by a Kilometre--- It'll stay the same till the 2 countries unite.


Cool maybe it'll be easier to smuggle in duty-free alcohol and tobacco. :)

Edited by Boges, 12 April 2012 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:09 PM

Cool maybe it'll be easier to smuggle in duty-free alcohol and tobacco. :)

Take a look at the Alberta Montana border east of Medicine Hat. There is NOTHING there except the Monalta Highway (& a lot of Antelope)
I understand that now the Amis patrol thier borders with UAVs (unarmed I hope :lol: )

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:33 PM

No they aren't.


Really, you tell that to the people who got slips. BTW, Harper has a greement with the US that the US will be going most of the monitoring, which sounds it leading to the NAU, maybe the border will disappear. http://www.cbc.ca/ne...udget-cuts.html

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:52 PM

Really, you tell that to the people who got slips


Those aren't for the most part, front line officers.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:53 PM

I don't understand why they would do this but about 1100-1200 agents are losing their jobs at the border, so whose going to look after this, the US?? So I guess we better get ready for more drugs and guns getting into Canada and very long lines, which the truckers won't like. http://ca.news.yahoo...-091152814.html

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