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[Shakeyhands]

Once again. The title of this thread is misleading as "Tennessee" has not said that hand holding is a gateway to sex; that is simply some people's interpretation of the bill.

Sorry, I was just trying to make someone laugh.... my bad.

[GostHacked]

Why not let parents be responsible to teach their kids about sex? Why is this kind of thing left up to the state? Because when you do, this type of shit happens.

Parents take back control of your children and don't put up with this crap.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/nj_principal_who_told_students_2.html

Blackmore caused an uproar in March when he told his more than 900 students thet they were in a "no hugging school" because of some "incidents of unsuitable, physical interactions."

School Superintendent David Healy said at the time that the district has the responsibility to teach children about appropriate interactions. But he said no one would be disciplined for hugging.

Maybe this next one should be in the 'Florida' thread.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/brevard_news/110311-students-suspended-for-hugging

PALM BAY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - A hug can brighten your day. It's so popular, there has even been a hug campaign around the world. But the gesture got some Palm Bay Southwest Middle School students into big trouble.

"I thought it was the most bizarre thing I've ever heard," said Nancy Crescente, the mother of 14-year-old Nickolas Martinez. "We're a cultural family and this is what we do."

Crescente said both her son and the 14-year-old girl who was the recipient of the hug were suspended. She says she wasn't notified about the suspensions until afterwards.

"They said this is what they do across the board, it is what it is. And that was that."

School administrators said a committee of parents approved the "no hugging" policy years ago, and there aren't plans to change it any time soon.

Edited by GostHacked, 16 April 2012 - 04:42 AM.

[TheNewTeddy]

Dear Tennessee

My bare forearm once rubbed up against the bare forearm of another man
Does this mean I'm gay?

[Michael Hardner]

Why not let parents be responsible to teach their kids about sex? Why is this kind of thing left up to the state? Because when you do, this type of shit happens.

Parents take back control of your children and don't put up with this crap.

Why not ? Maybe because parents don't do it.

[GostHacked]

Why not ? Maybe because parents don't do it.

Then they should not have children if they don't want the responsibility. Simple as that.

[BubberMiley]

Simple as that.

Not that simple. What if they have children even though they shouldn't have?

[GostHacked]

Not that simple.

It is that simple. People like to make a real simple thing difficult.

What if they have children even though they shouldn't have?

And how is that the State's problem?

[Michael Hardner]

And how is that the State's problem?

Unwanted children brought up by families who don't plan, don't pay attention to good advice....

You don't see how this can cause problems for the state ?

[American Woman]

It is that simple. People like to make a real simple thing difficult.

It is that simple, eh? So what's your plan to stop them from having kids?

[American Woman]

Dear Tennessee

My bare forearm once rubbed up against the bare forearm of another man
Does this mean I'm gay?

Dear TheNewTeddy,

Once again I feel compelled to repeat that it's not Tennessee saying that holding hands is a gateway to sex. Tennessee is not putting out all the hyperbole. Once again I will point out that it is only some people's interpretation of the bill.

Sincerely,
American Woman

[American Woman]

It's not presented in the media, because what you say is not true! Lol

Tennessee is #9. California is #15.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/USTPtrends.pdf

For that year, that study (which, btw, includes estimated numbers of pregnancies ending in miscarriage or stillbirth, so I question the accuracy of the reality), Tennessee is 9 and California is 15; other studies, other years, show different results. I was looking at earlier stats. In 2010, Tennessee fell to #10, as their rate of teen pregnancy fell in accordance with the rest of the country, in spite of their sex education classes stressing abstinence.


But here's the thing - sex education isn't the only factor in teen pregnancy rates, so as I said, the claim being made doesn't tell the whole sotry.

Other studies, other claims, say that low income is a factor, while others say that wide income discrepancies is a factor, as others still say that the rate of teen pregnancy is higher among Blacks and Hispanics. In New Hampshire, for example, the state with the lowest teen pregnancy rate, Blacks make up 1% of the population compared to 17% in Tennessee. I would say that overall income is also more of a factor in Tennessee. Yet the headlines say it's because of "abstinence being taught in sex education."

As I said, those headlines are not exactly taking into account the total picture.

[BubberMiley]

And how is that the State's problem?

You could make the same argument against education in general. Learned people decided long ago that certain burdens on society could be reduced with an educated populace. They experimented with a novel concept called public education whereby all children would learn things that it was to everyone's benefit that they know, and they even made it illegal to not send your kids to school.

Edited by BubberMiley, 16 April 2012 - 10:38 AM.

[The_Squid]

Dear TheNewTeddy,

Once again I feel compelled to repeat that it's not Tennessee saying that holding hands is a gateway to sex. Tennessee is not putting out all the hyperbole. Once again I will point out that it is only some people's interpretation of the bill.

Sincerely,
American Woman

Can you inform us as to what acts constitute a "gateway to sex" act?

[GostHacked]

Question do you think it will do them harm to learn about it?

How about letting kids ... be kids.

[GostHacked]

Can you inform us as to what acts constitute a "gateway to sex" act?

It's like saying pot is a gateway drug to harder substances.