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[GostHacked]

You could make the same argument against education in general. Learned people decided long ago that certain burdens on society could be reduced with an educated populace. They experimented with a novel concept called public education whereby all children would learn things that it was to everyone's benefit that they know, and they even made it illegal to not send your kids to school.

If parents want to homeschool their children, they should have the option to. They should not be punished for it. I probably could have benefited from homeschooling... I did not do very well in high school.

[American Woman]

If parents want to homeschool their children, they should have the option to. They should not be punished for it. I probably could have benefited from homeschooling... I did not do very well in high school.

Where aren't parents allowed to homeschool their children? How are they punished for it?

[GostHacked]

Where aren't parents allowed to homeschool their children? How are they punished for it?

Look up truancy laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truancy

Truancy is any intentional unauthorized or illegal absence from compulsory schooling. The term describes absences caused by students of their own free will, and usually does not refer to legitimate "excused" absences, such as ones related to medical conditions. The term's exact meaning differs from school to school, and is usually explicitly defined in the school's handbook of policies and procedures.[citation needed] It has no relation to homeschooling, although sometimes parents who practice homeschooling have been charged with this.[1]

[American Woman]

Look up truancy laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truancy

Parents who homeschool are expected to actually teach their children and the children are expected to put in school time at home. Did you read the source you cited? The charge is for parents who allow their children to be truant from school, claim they are going to homeschool them, and then don't. I certainly agree that parents who homeschool should be held to certain standards. Do you disagree?

[GostHacked]

Parents who homeschool are expected to actually teach their children and the children are expected to put in school time at home. Did you read the source you cited? The charge is for parents who allow their children to be truant from school, claim they are going to homeschool them, and then don't.

Sure some people will take advantage of anything when they can. Most good people don't.

I certainly agree that parents who homeschool should be held to certain standards. Do you disagree?

Sure, as long as home schooled children can pass the government state run school tests, then there is no problem.

[American Woman]

Sure some people will take advantage of anything when they can. Most good people don't.

Exactly. And those "good people" are allowed to homeschool their children; there is no punishment.

Sure, as long as home schooled children can pass the government state run school tests, then there is no problem.

Exactly. Which really makes me wonder what you were referring to earlier.

[cybercoma]

And how is that the State's problem?

Because we live in a society and those kids are part of that society.

[GostHacked]

Because we live in a society and those kids are part of that society.

So are these parents, they need to grow up and take responsibility of their children so the rest of us don't have to support them. Sure parents need help, and society can do that, but the parents need to step up and do the right things before society can really take up the slack.

More and more parents are letting the TV babysit a child, more and more don't want to be responsible but gives the state crap when the parents fail the child.

Kind of off topic now but .... schools are now taking over what the parents do. Teaching them about sex education, telling them what to eat (chicken nuggets is good, ham sandwich on whole wheat, bad).

The state is also trying to take some responsibilities away from the parents, which should not happen.

[Michael Hardner]

So are these parents, they need to grow up and take responsibility of their children so the rest of us don't have to support them.

You're missing the point. They DON'T do it. So what happens then ?

Kind of off topic now but .... schools are now taking over what the parents do. Teaching them about sex education, telling them what to eat (chicken nuggets is good, ham sandwich on whole wheat, bad).

The state is also trying to take some responsibilities away from the parents, which should not happen.

It's not taking them away. It's providing back-up so that the children are taught something, even if the parents don't take their responsibility.

[-TSS-]

I think parents are allowed to home-school their children provided by that they are qualified and informative enough on quite a large number of subjects. Depends on the age of the children too.

[The_Squid]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

[American Woman]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

Sex education varies a lot from district to district in some states, so perhaps this law is written the way it is so districts can put their own interpretation on it.

[Shady]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

Not really, it's completely subjective.

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

They aren't banning or not teaching anything based on so-called gateway acts.

[cybercoma]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

Gazing longingly across the classroom. Next thing you know, BAM! Underage mother.

[American Woman]

Gazing longingly across the classroom. Next thing you know, BAM! Underage mother.

Of course that's you saying that, not "Tennessee," not this bill.



I find it really interesting that all of the hyperbole about what "gateway sex" constitutes is coming from the "critics" of this bill for including what they say it includes. They are the ones coming up with extreme examples - as they attribute their examples to "Tennessee," and criticize Tennessee for it.