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[The Right One]

Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

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Mayor Rob Ford will receive his official invitation to Pride Toronto 2012 festivities on Monday or Tuesday, but he has already ignored an olive branch from a prominent gay member of council.


Rob Ford has a family, aka children and a WIFE.
this is more important than witnessing live transfer of HIV and other diseases.

[Michael Hardner]

Rob Ford has a family, aka children and a WIFE.
this is more important than witnessing live transfer of HIV and other diseases.

You can't go to pride if you have a family and a wife ?

It would go a long way to mending fences, if Rob made an effort to attend this event. The main reason not to attend is to send a message that you are stubborn and will never compromise...

[cybercoma]

What does him having a family and a wife have to do with anything? There are many straight people that attend the PRIDE parade in support of friends and family in the LGBTQ community. It's about equality, but you don't see that because some 2000 year old piece of fiction that is held up as unquestionable tells you otherwise. Meanwhile, you have no problems calling other cultures archaic and primitive. Keep flaunting your primitive texts, while the rest of us live in modern times.

[Boges]

What does him having a family and a wife have to do with anything? There are many straight people that attend the PRIDE parade in support of friends and family in the LGBTQ community. It's about equality, but you don't see that because some 2000 year old piece of fiction that is held up as unquestionable tells you otherwise. Meanwhile, you have no problems calling other cultures archaic and primitive. Keep flaunting your primitive texts, while the rest of us live in modern times.

How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs.

[jacee]

Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1162122--pride-toronto-issues-invitation-to-rob-ford?bn=1#comments

Mayor Rob Ford will receive his official invitation to Pride Toronto 2012 festivities on Monday or Tuesday, but he has already ignored an olive branch from a prominent gay member of council.


Rob Ford has a family, aka children and a WIFE.
this is more important than witnessing live transfer of HIV and other diseases.

Homophobes have such obssessions with envisioning other people's sexual habits. I do personally believe that such obssession reveals homosexual desires that they constantly have to supress, due to their homophobic social or religious milieu.
Why else would someone fantasize about gay sex in the streets ... when that's not what happens at all. If you REALLY snooped around, you might see a gay couple sneak off for sex, but you can see hetero couples doing that any night!

So sad for to have to live such a troubled life burying desires. So much healthier to be free to be what you are. I had a friend like that. He thought EVERYBODY had those urges, and just had to supress them. When he realized that other people just don't have those urges, he was finally able to 'come out', be free, be himself.

Ford is such a dork. He's made such an issue of it now, such a fool of himself., that there's really no way out for him.

I'm not totally insensitive, though: I do know that men who were sexually abused by men (as a child) might have an aversion to the thought of same sex relations. However, those who abuse children aren't homosexuals: They are pedophiles, and pedophiles don't care whether it's boys or girls they abuse, though boys are less likely to tell.

Issues ... homophobes have issues to deal with themselves, preferably without foisting their opinions on others.

[Boges]

I'm not totally insensitive, though: I do know that men who were sexually abused by men (as a child) might have an aversion to the thought of same sex relations. However, those who abuse children aren't homosexuals: They are pedophiles, and pedophiles don't care whether it's boys or girls they abuse, though boys are less likely to tell.

That's one hell of an unsupportable claim you made there.

You doing a stopstaaron impersonation?

[Michael Hardner]

How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs.

Well, you are the one who brought scripture into it, presumably to justify your "slagging" (your word) of "gays". (your word)

[cybercoma]

How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs.

As well they should be slagged. Gays did nothing wrong. Christian beliefs are insulting and harmful.

[Boges]

As well they should be slagged. Gays did nothing wrong. Christian beliefs are insulting and harmful.

Yeah "Love your neighbour". Such hateful stuff.

There's a difference between hating Homosexuals and not condoning their life choices.

Let's say you oppose public displays of hetrosexual sex. Should you be called a Hetrophobe?

Edited by Boges, 16 April 2012 - 09:16 AM.

[Michael Hardner]

What about if you quote a section of a holy book that calls for their execution ? What then ?

[Black Dog]

How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs.

OP was quoting the Old Testament, not "Christian beliefs."

[Moonlight Graham]

He's the freaking mayor of Toronto, which has a very vibrant gay community, so if you decide you want to be mayor of Toronto you better get with the program. Gays are part of his constituency too.

On the other hand, looks like a lot of gay people, gay supporters, and young people (as always) stayed home last election day so maybe this will wake them up next time if they don't want a dolt like Ford in office. You get what you vote for (or don't vote for).

[g_bambino]

He thought EVERYBODY had those urges, and just had to supress them.

Everybody does have those urges, to some varying extent at some point or points in their lives. Nobody should have to repress them; but, most (and mainly males) face pretty significant stigma if they don't.

That said, I don't get the hoopla over the Mayor's declining to participate in the Pride parade. I get the general feeling that the importance of Pride is overblown, as though it’s the penultimate event of the social calendar and everyone has to agree with that. Plus, Ford (despite how much I dislike him) is free to hold his opinions and make his choices. We don't know why he doesn’t join in, so casting labels like "homophobe" on him is pretty presumptuous. Perhaps he's just a prude; there may not be sex in the middle of Yonge Street, but Pride is pretty lascivious.
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Edited by g_bambino, 16 April 2012 - 09:45 AM.

[Boges]

OP was quoting the Old Testament, not "Christian beliefs."

OK so he was slagging Jews then.

Bernie Farber at the Canadian Jewish Council has been notified.

[The_Squid]

Pride parades, Sihk parades.... I understand that a mayor's role is to attend these things whether or not they agree with them. This has been happening for a century or more. THe mayor shows up to any big event in town to smile and shake hands.

I've seen the pride parade go by while I was visiting a friend in a 9th story apartment in Vancouver. It woke me up and I was very hungover. Personally, from what I saw, I wouldn't take an elevator to go see one. Not because they woke me up and I was grumpy, just because it was definitely not my scene.

Should a mayor be obligated to go? I don't think so... but I don't care either way.

Biblical beliefs.... What happens when the bible says we should stone adulterers to death? Why is that part of the bible removed, but not others? Should the faithful only ignore the violent parts? How does one decide? Listen to the Pastor? Where did he get his information on what in the bible people should take as gospel and what is OK to ignore?