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[Argus]

I don't disagree, but his handling of this says everything about what kind of politician Ford is. He doesn't have to get up on a float and grind with some leather daddies. All he has to do is read a proclamation, pose for a photo with a rainbow flag and all the negative stuff goes away.

I'm going to go out on not much of a limb and suggest it was his media/PR guy who told him to skip the parade in the first place due to a fairly predictable amount of public, and probably embarrassing anti-Ford behaviour which would be shown him if he ever went near a gay pride parade.

[Argus]

As a fringe counselor, Ford repeated voted against motions benefiting the gay community, such as AIDS funding, is on record as opposing gay marriage, and, as I've shown here, has actively avoided any participation in any Pride events, even those held by the City. This shit adds up.

Ford is considered conservative, right? Most conservatives would say that the city has no business funding AIDS treatment/research or anything else similar. Why would a city be funding this sort of thing? It's not their responsibility. Does the city fund Cancer research? As for being opposed to gay marriage, most religious people are.

[Black Dog]

I'm going to go out on not much of a limb and suggest it was his media/PR guy who told him to skip the parade in the first place due to a fairly predictable amount of public, and probably embarrassing anti-Ford behaviour which would be shown him if he ever went near a gay pride parade.

I guess you didn't read the post you quoted.

He doesn't have to get up on a float and grind with some leather daddies. All he has to do is read a proclamation, pose for a photo with a rainbow flag and all the negative stuff goes away.

IOW he doesn't have to go to the parade at all.

[Argus]

I guess you didn't read the post you quoted.

IOW he doesn't have to go to the parade at all.

Maybe. But now, due to howls from the mob, that would be seen as giving in to his opponents. It's kind of hard to see how he comes out ahead in that. The opponents are not going to love him one bit more for doing so. While a probably sizable contingent of religious people/social conservatives would be disappointed in him for backing down.

[Black Dog]

Maybe. But now, due to howls from the mob, that would be seen as giving in to his opponents. It's kind of hard to see how he comes out ahead in that.

Yeah hard to see how he would look good by, uh, compromising. What?

The opponents are not going to love him one bit more for doing so.

No, but they might at least stop thinking of him as a raging homophobe and go back to thinking of him as a raging idiot like before.

While a probably sizable contingent of religious people/social conservatives would be disappointed in him for backing down

Who else are they going to vote for?

[guyser]

When one becomes Mayor of a city, he signs on for weekend duties, he signs on for long hours and time away from family and friends.

No disputing that.

The one at the top has to put holidays and personal stuff on the back burner and at the same time the Mayor gets the perks too. Meeting famous people, going to great events, get the photo ops etc etc.

When one is Mayor , then one is certainly beholden to welcome visitors and declaring proclamations for events that generate millions and millions of dollars for a city that wants to rake in millions and millions of dollars in tax and various other revenue streams.

No disputing that.

Mayor Mel being Jewish certainly didnt think gay folks were normal. But Mel always knew the value of a dollar, and if he could suck it out of 1,5 million people who attend a parade and week long events around it, well Mel could be persuaded to be there to say "Welcome...spend your money!" (Mel knew this parade was one of the largest anywhere in the world)

And that is all there is to this gay story. Mayor Ford is too stupid to realize that people are flocking to this city in June for the Pride events.

All he has to do is make the proclaimation, stand for a few photo's, welcome the folks, shake a few hands and his cottage will be waiting later that hour he had to endure.....soooooo much fahbulous gaydom.

Not hard to figure it out.....unless you are Rob Ford.

Afterall , Mayor F walked in the Easter Parade (att-25,000) , maybe if Pride promised chocolates Rob would reconsider?

Edited by guyser, 04 May 2012 - 03:47 PM.

[Peeves]

When one becomes Mayor of a city, he signs on for weekend duties, he signs on for long hours and time away from family and friends.

No disputing that.

The one at the top has to put holidays and personal stuff on the back burner and at the same time the Mayor gets the perks too. Meeting famous people, going to great events, get the photo ops etc etc.

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Ford has the right as a citizen to attend what where or when and be judged by that. He seems wiling to accept that, so your calling him stupid for making a choice seems to be rather judgmental given the illegal activities and questionable immoral behavior by some in the parade.

I think he is entitled as you or I to decide his attendance.

Edited by Peeves, 05 May 2012 - 06:31 AM.

[guyser]

Ford has the right as a citizen to attend what where or when and be judged by that.

This issue has nothing to do with rights.

He seems wiling to accept that, so your calling him stupid for making a choice seems to be rather judgmental given the illegal activities and questionable immoral behavior by some in the parade.

I think he is entitled as you or I to decide his attendance.

Too funny! Illegal and questionable immoral behaviour. Pull your head out of the 1940's.

The Mayor has no problem welcoming Caribana , same type of behaiour for the most part.

As the Mayor, he has to be on side every event that generates millions of dollars. Screw anyones sense of misplaced morals.

[Peeves]

This issue has nothing to do with rights.

Too funny! Illegal and questionable immoral behaviour. Pull your head out of the 1940's.

The Mayor has no problem welcoming Caribana , same type of behaiour for the most part.

As the Mayor, he has to be on side every event that generates millions of dollars. Screw anyones sense of misplaced morals.

Caribana and Pride are different in the extreme. To equate the two as equal immorally is totally disingenuous.

Pull your head out of your nether regions and face facts.

Good for ANYONE that declines to attend because of the practices of the few exhibitionists that break our laws, the city laws, and the mayor's laws.

[Shakeyhands]

Caribana and Pride are different in the extreme. To equate the two as equal immorally is totally disingenuous.

Pull your head out of your nether regions and face facts.

Good for ANYONE that declines to attend because of the practices of the few exhibitionists that break our laws, the city laws, and the mayor's laws.

Haven't been to Caribana either eh Peeves....

[jacee]

Caribana and Pride are different in the extreme. To equate the two as equal immorally is totally disingenuous.

Why?

Because one is erotic heterosexuality ('good')
And one is erotic homosexuality ('bad')?

Please clarify.

[Peeves]

Haven't been to Caribana either eh Peeves....

I've done better in Trinidad.

[Peeves]

Why?

Because one is erotic heterosexuality ('good')
And one is erotic homosexuality ('bad')?

Please clarify.

Pride full frontal nudity..Breaks the law.
I've beaten that horse to death. Go back and read my posts.

[guyser]

Caribana and Pride are different in the extreme. To equate the two as equal immorally is totally disingenuous.

Pull your head out of your nether regions and face facts.

Good for ANYONE that declines to attend because of the practices of the few exhibitionists that break our laws, the city laws, and the mayor's laws.

As someone opioned.....'haven't been to Caribana , have you?'

Overt sexuality? Caribana wins

That a few people are naked (in a sea of a million) , and for you to use that as an excuse for our Mayor is pretty petty and ignores the bigger picture.



Are you aware that there were some kids smoking a joint at the Beaches Easter Parade last month? Come on man, what horror that is! Think of the children.

We need to ban Easter parades since christianity is corrupting our youth. A joint.....sheesh, pretty soon someone might dance.

Oh and the Mayor....he was at the Parade. Why is socializing with known drug abusers?

[Boges]

As someone opioned.....'haven't been to Caribana , have you?'

Overt sexuality? Caribana wins

That a few people are naked (in a sea of a million) , and for you to use that as an excuse for our Mayor is pretty petty and ignores the bigger picture.



Are you aware that there were some kids smoking a joint at the Beaches Easter Parade last month? Come on man, what horror that is! Think of the children.

We need to ban Easter parades since christianity is corrupting our youth. A joint.....sheesh, pretty soon someone might dance.

Oh and the Mayor....he was at the Parade. Why is socializing with known drug abusers?

If the Mayor had a traditional weekend at the cottage during Caribana would people call him racist.