And this matters ... why?
You ask why it matters which students are on "strike/boycott". It matters in political terms.
It also matters if you believe that not all BAs are the same. IOW, if you believe that higher education in some fields has reached the point of diminishing marginal utility.
And it also matters in terms of "principles".
I expect parents who pay the shot will appreciate no increase. Are you saying 'engineering, hard science' etc students who are not politically engaged will just pay the increase and not take any decrease that is negotiated? No, of course not.
Are you saying that anglophone and allophone students won't participate in any negotiated settlement?
You argue here that non-striking students will benefit if the boycotters/activists keep tuition fees low.
And I suppose some people benefit from free TVs when vandals break into a Best Buy. (jacee, education is not "free". As Milton Friedman famously said, "There is no free lunch.")
Does any negotiated settlement not apply to college students (represented by CLASSE) as well, if Charest refuses to negotiate with them?
This policy change does not affect College (Cegep) students directly. It would only change university tuition fees.
In Quebec, Cegep students (the equivalent of Grade 12 and first year university in ROC) pay annual books/tuition fees of around $500.
As I understand it, CLASSE is a special sub-group/committee formed by university/college students. You have to understand Quebec trade unions (FTQ/CSN) to understand the student unions.
I went looking ... here's evidence of a "split": http://www.thestar.c...student-protest
Division is stirring among students at the Cégep de Saint-Laurent because three among them successfully obtained a court injunction ordering their particular courses to go ahead in spite of the strike— whose pursuit had been voted for by 90 per cent of students in an assembly earlier in April.
Most strike votes in student assemblies were held by raising a hand in public, often with less than 10% of students in attendance. I think that was the case at Cegep St-Laurent.
IOW, the strike votes were hardly democratic.
But here's the money quote:
It’s a minority of institutions and students currently on strike in Quebec. Out of 48 cegeps, 21 are on strike involving 83,000 students out of the total 175,000. Including universities, about 165,000 Quebec students are boycotting classes out of more than 400,000.
The fact is that most university/college students in Quebec are going to classes, professors are teaching and final exams are being scheduled.
I find it interesting which students are on strike and which are not. Don't you, jacee?
For example, is it not interesting that Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois went to a private fee-paying high school (which is nevertheless subsidized by the Quebec government)? Indeed, many of those wearing the red square (Pauline Marois etc) also benefitted from a subsidized private high school education.
Let me explain this to non-Quebecers: Imagine if the Ontario/Albertan governments subsidized Upper Canada College or the Calgary French School so that these schools could lower annual tuition fees to $3000 - but pick and choose students.
I reckon that about 50% of (francophone) Quebec university students arrive through such a "private/subsidized" high school system - including GND.
If those who wear the red-square truly had principles, they would demonstrate to change Quebec's high school system. They would demonstrate to reduce high school tuiton fees to zero.
And jacee, if you had principles, you would at least admit that the Calgarian Harper shares the same currency with Gilles Duceppe, while Norwegians and Swedes have their own currency.
Edited by August1991, 30 April 2012 - 11:16 PM.
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