Edited by dre, 03 May 2012 - 05:01 PM.
Ottawa approves Conrad Black’s request to live in Canada
#65
Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:37 PM
Thanks for pointing out the fact that people of wealth have more rights in Canada!
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Here's another factoid. If you put your head in water, it will get wet. Also, you won't be able to breath very well.
Any more shocking bits of info I can give you?
#66
Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:39 PM
How do you know that?
How many black men get a fair trail in the US in 1969?
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What makes you think Black's trial was fair? It didn't seem very fair to me.
#67
Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:45 PM
Aint that the truth.What makes you think Black's trial was fair? It didn't seem very fair to me.
Convicted on the smallest charge,all the big ones he was acquitted.
Seems that a $280,000 illegal profit (not really) has generated $30M in penalties.
Most would say ....Huh?
#68
Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:58 PM
What does this have to Mulcairs and Kenneys comments?Here's another factoid. If you put your head in water, it will get wet. Also, you won't be able to breath very well.
Any more shocking bits of info I can give you?
Was that not what we were talking about?
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#70
Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:50 PM
Sorry I do not know the details surrounding Blacks case.
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#72
Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:54 PM
I hope so.So is Canada saying to ALL immigrants that if you come here and the west is at war with your mother land and if you go back to fight against Canada/NATO you will not be welcome back, even if you are 15 years old? IF yes, are we telling them that?
#73
Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:18 AM
True.Conrad Black was born in Montreal.
True.Lord Black is not a citizen , Omar is.
One needs special dispensation to get in, the other can walk thru the front door.
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Regardless of what our various citizenship laws or regulations state, Canadian citizenship policy has always been lenient to people who were once citizens and then lost it. And like it or not, we make a distinction between Canadian citizens born here and those who became citizens. (For example, Canadian-born citizens have no "citizenship certificate".)
With that said, the cases of Conrad Black and Omar Khadr pose interesting questions.
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FWIW, I reckon that "citizenship" will matter less in the future. It is "residence" and "jurisdiction" that will matter more. Are you subject to US tax law? Are you subject to Canadian criminal law? Where do you reside for tax reasons? In a civil suit or a divorce case, where are you resident? Under what law?
We used to define the State and citizenship by geography. In the future, I suspect that we will define these terms otherwise.
Mark Steyn, for example, was born in Toronto of a Belgian mother (IIRC); he worked in the UK for many years but now lives in America. I have no idea what passport he uses when he travels to Australia. Presumably he could use an EU Belgian passport. Where does he pay taxes? And if he slept with a prostitute in Sydney, would he be subject to Canada's criminal code?
Edited by August1991, 05 May 2012 - 12:27 AM.
#74
Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:18 AM
I am just going to jump in here and point out all US citizens are subject to US tax law no matter where they live in the world and must file a tax return every year or face consequences. I know I file mine.True.
True.
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Regardless of what our various citizenship laws or regulations state, Canadian citizenship policy has always been lenient to people who were once citizens and then lost it. And like it or not, we make a distinction between Canadian citizens born here and those who became citizens. (For example, Canadian-born citizens have no "citizenship certificate".)
With that said, the cases of Conrad Black and Omar Khadr pose interesting questions.
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FWIW, I reckon that "citizenship" will matter less in the future. It is "residence" and "jurisdiction" that will matter more. Are you subject to US tax law? Are you subject to Canadian criminal law? Where do you reside for tax reasons? In a civil suit or a divorce case, where are you resident? Under what law?
We used to define the State and citizenship by geography. In the future, I suspect that we will define these terms otherwise.
Mark Steyn, for example, was born in Toronto of a Belgian mother (IIRC); he worked in the UK for many years but now lives in America. I have no idea what passport he uses when he travels to Australia. Presumably he could use an EU Belgian passport. Where does he pay taxes? And if he slept with a prostitute in Sydney, would he be subject to Canada's criminal code?
#75
Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:30 AM
Ottawa approves Conrad Black’s request to live in Canada
Thank you, Ottawa.
I believe you will be getting him back soon. IIRC there are a myriad of civil suits he will have to defend against..
I can't believe he got into Canada so quickly. I figured US would send Lord Black of Crossharbour to the UK.
Then he should have applied to come to Canada...
Seems the Harper Government can keep out some and welcome others...










