I think you are arguing with someone who is not me. This is an argument you did not resolve with someone else and are trying to finish with me, perhaps? Invitro fertilization? Krystalnacht? Godwin's Law works in mysterious ways.
Christians are the ones telling us they're the victims of persecution. The comparison of Christians today to Jews in the time of Hitler is pretty absurd, but it didn't come from me, it came from Bishop Daniel Jenky. The invitro fertilization comment was in reference to a Catholic school that is being sued for wrongful dismissal after they fired a teacher who sought IVF treatments. The Catholics are once again trying to present this as a secular attack on their religious beliefs. Or Christians talking about how anti-bullying laws are anti-Christian. I've mentioned lots of examples in the other thread. Christians trying to play victim for political purposes.
This kid is doing the same.
In any case, my position is that it is ridiculous to suspend someone for this tshirt. You may disagree with that. Obviously Cybercoma and Bonam do, and some agree with me.
Hypothetically, if he had worn some other shirt would it still be ridiculous to suspend him for it? If the shirt had said, hypothetically, "White Power", or something like that?
I base this on the premise that (disregarding what anyone else thinks or how they would react) if it were a kid wearing a shirt that says "Life is Wasted Without Allah", I would think it would be overboard for people to take the message that that person is actually saying their life is a waste. I know, I would not even think that.
But we have been told that this is a kid who goes around telling other kids they're going to hell. So it's clear that that's exactly what message his shirt is supposed to give. You'd have to be extremely dense to think otherwise.
So let's examine it from that perspective. And I am not using this particular example because I think "Oh if it were a muslim tshirt this would not have happened." I really do not know what would happen in such a situation, but regardless, it has no bearing upon the illustration I am about to make. Where I am a Christian (perhaps a poor one at that) and you seem to have a great deal of frustration toward Christians, then perhaps the best way for either of us to see the issue clearly is to replace it with another faith.
If you are sitting in school, and someone is wearing an hypothetical t-shirt which reads "Life Is Wasted Without Allah", do you really take that as a message that this person is saying your life is a waste?
If it was being worn by a kid who was known for telling infidel students that they were going to hell, then yes, I would.
Edited by kimmy, 10 May 2012 - 09:45 PM.