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[jefferiah]

Who wouldn't love to have the problems this guy has?

How many times have you heard someone say,
"If I had his money, I'd do things my way."
But little they know that it's so hard to find.
One rich man in ten with a satisfied mind.

For money can't buy back your youth when you're old,
nor a friend when you're lonely, nor a heart thats grown cold,
the wealthiest person is a pauper at times
compared to the man with a satisfied mind.

.........

Also there was that guy on Lost.

Edited by jefferiah, 08 May 2012 - 03:25 PM.

[Bonam]

Good friends help friends when they need it; they do what they can for each other.

I agree, they help each other by providing their time, support, etc. But from my understanding of social expectations and etiquette, giving each other large sums of money is not a usual component of friendship. I would never expect a friend to give me large amounts of cash, even if that friend was a millionaire (of which I know several), whether by luck or hard work. And I would certainly never ask (unless it was a situation in which someone's life depended on it).

In fact, giving large sums of money is often not even a component of familial relationships. Many family members choose to loan money to their relatives rather than simply gifting it.

Edited by Bonam, 08 May 2012 - 03:12 PM.

[American Woman]

I agree, they help each other by providing their time, support, etc.

So you're ok with giving time, but not money?? I don't get that at all.

But from my understanding of social expectations and etiquette, giving each other large sums of money is not a usual component of friendship.

So you and your good friends concern yourselves with social expectations and etiquette? Seriously? I would say good friends are those who you don't have to be concerned with such things.

I would never expect a friend to give me large amounts of cash, even if that friend was a millionaire (of which I know several),

"Knowing" and being "good friends" are two very different things, and I'm guessing several of your good friends don't have 21 million in cash burning a hole in their pocket.

And I would certainly never ask (unless it was a situation in which someone's life depended on it).

That's you. Doesn't mean it's wrong if someone else, who has always been there for their friend, does ask. I find it odd that you would think there's nothing wrong with asking people to give of their (valuable) time, but asking for monetary help after a multi-million dollar win would be taboo. To me a favor is a favor, if one is able to do it, they do it because they care. I'm not saying support them for life - but I would definitely give my good friends a lump sum of money under the circumstances.

In fact, giving large sums of money is often not even a component of familial relationships. Many family members choose to loan money to their relatives rather than simply gifting it.

And very often family members "gift" the money, too; especially people with over 21 million dollars in the bank.

Edited by American Woman, 08 May 2012 - 03:31 PM.

[jefferiah]

So you're ok with giving time, but not money?? I don't get that at all.


So you and your good friends concern yourselves with social expectations and etiquette? Seriously? I would say good friends are those who you don't have to be concerned with such things.

There used to be a Ruffles commercial with an Alaskan native guy sitting there in the isolated tundra with a bag of Ruffles. The one other guy in this remote terrain asks him for a chip, and he looks around and says, "If I give one to you, I have to give one to everybody else."

Edited by jefferiah, 08 May 2012 - 03:53 PM.

[Peter F]

Who here wouldn't switch their lot in life for this guy's?

Me.

[bleeding heart]

That explains it then. I wonder why they make them go public with the win?

It's advertising for the lottery.

[guyser]

It's advertising for the lottery.

Nope.

Integrity of the process.Public trust. No one knows who won, then plenty will suspect that someone connected won.

Now that of course does not jive with the lottery retailers scam that ran for many years , but there you go.

There are still people who think its a rigged game, that only Ontarians win...etc etc.

Edited by guyser, 28 May 2012 - 04:50 PM.

[bleeding heart]

Nope.

Integrity of the process.Public trust. No one knows who won, then plenty will suspect that someone connected won.

Now that of course does not jive with the lottery retailers scam that ran for many years , but there you go.

There are still people who think its a rigged game, that only Ontarians win...etc etc.

Sure, that's an excellent point.

But I also suspect--hell, I know--that it's for marketing purposes as well: "Here's a winner! Buy your tickets!" It takes the abstract out of winning.

Edited by bleeding heart, 29 May 2012 - 04:17 AM.

[guyser]

Sure, that's an excellent point.

But I also suspect--hell, I know--that it's for marketing purposes as well: "Here's a winner! Buy your tickets!" It takes the abstract out of winning.

Sorry, you are correct and I should not have said 'nope' .

I was thinking that advertising was your prime reason .

In any event, adverts come free w the mandatory publishing of the winners name photo and general living area.

[Canuckistani]

How many times have you heard someone say,
"If I had his money, I'd do things my way."
But little they know that it's so hard to find.
One rich man in ten with a satisfied mind.

For money can't buy back your youth when you're old,
nor a friend when you're lonely, nor a heart thats grown cold,
the wealthiest person is a pauper at times
compared to the man with a satisfied mind.

Poor people also get old, and it's a lot harder on them. They also lose friends etc.

"I've been rich and I've bee poor, and rich is better." Attributed to various people, including Sophie Tucker.

[Canuckistani]

I wouldn't expect my good friends to just sit back and be happy for me as I didn't share the wealth with people I consider good friends. I think it would be a pretty crappy friend who would expect his/her friends to just be happy for them as they enjoyed the fruits of a $21 million lottery win without thinking about, caring about, helping them.

He would go broke helping all his "good friends" that all of a sudden had their hand out. The funny thing is if he had "earned" that money doing financial scams on Wall St., nobody would expect him to give it away. Of course you would give some money to people really close to you - but how much? When would they ever deem it enough, not think you should have given them more?