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[TimG]

That many sources of water in bottles come from a tap source same as city water?

And that same tap water is used to make pop and any number of other sugary drinks which people pay top dollar for. What possible reason do you have to single out bottled water? Why aren't you ranting about the entire bottle beverage industry?

[guyser]

Who are you calling stupid? I love how quick all you fools are to pass judgement. People will pay for products that they prefer. Period. Some of us prefer the taste of certain brands of bottled water as compared to tap water. And we'll drink it whether or not some moralizing jerk that can't keep their nose out of other people's business thinks its stupid.

If they are drinking bottled water at home, in a city , then that is pretty dumb and wasteful. People are free to do so , but it really is silly spending 60C to a buck for something thats already there and cost 1 cent for the same amount.

To each their own, but the waste is something we all have to deal with and pay for so...

And that same tap water is used to make pop and any number of other sugary drinks which people pay top dollar for. What possible reason do you have to single out bottled water? Why aren't you ranting about the entire bottle beverage industry?

I dont have Coke taps in my house....do you ? I have water taps in my house.
Because they are seperate categories. While true Coke uses water for Coke and Dasani BW , more...much more is put in a coke drink justifying most of the cost.

Generally Coke isnt considered a health drink (unless one runs marathons) whereas water is a necessity.

Maybe harsh words to categorize folks as stupid, but it really is not very smart.

There are times of course where BW is needed and necessary. But a proliferation of BW in ones house is pretty dumb.

[TimG]

I dont have Coke taps in my house....do you ? I have water taps in my house.

Who says bottled water is drunk at a house?

much more is put in a coke drink justifying most of the cost.

ROTFL. Coke is sugar water. It has no redeeming value. People drink it because they like the taste. Other people drink Dasani because they like the taste. It makes no sense to criticize one group of people over the other because of personal taste.

How about people that buy water filters? Do you criticize them too? After all they are wasting money when raw tap water is 'just as good'.

If nothing else: tap water can have a strong chlorine taste depending where you are. Bottled water does not have that issue.

Edited by TimG, 09 May 2012 - 04:23 PM.

[guyser]

Who says bottled water is drunk at a house?

You made the comparison, not me

ROTFL. Coke is sugar water. It has no redeeming value. People drink it because they like the taste. Other people drink Dasani because they like the taste. It makes no sense to criticize one group of people over the other because of personal taste.

I do not deny the first part.

People drink dasani for the taste? Uh no.....they bought into marketing. No more no less, nothing wrong w it I suppose.
Tests show that people cannot discern betw tap and bottled water

How about people that buy water filters? Do you criticize them too? After all they are wasting money when raw tap water is 'just as good'.

If nothing else: tap water can have a strong chlorine taste depending where you are. Bottled water does not have that issue.

People, for the most part, bought into the filter marketing thing too. Most people fail to realize that not changing that filter means bacteria is going into the water that wasnt there before. Hell, even I bought into that one. Proved to be a scam.

Um...bottled water around here comes from muni taps, same as in your house, same water that comes out of the tap. Bottled water does have that issue

Edited by guyser, 09 May 2012 - 04:33 PM.

[bush_cheney2004]

...Um...bottled water around here comes from muni taps, same as in your house, same water that comes out of the tap. Bottled water does have that issue

Ummm...no...not all bottled water. Reverse osmosis processing with pre/post carbon filtering and UV light exposure turns the municipal pee that you enjoy so much into a far better tasting liquid (and solid). You say it's just marketing, but the build up of rust and mineral scale in my plumbing fixtures and pipes tells me otherwise.

Plus it's fun to buy and drink cases of bottled water just to irk the tree huggers preaching their religion.

[guyser]

Ummm...no...not all bottled water.

As i said, bottled water around here ....Yes it does, #1 and 2 brands.

Reverse osmosis processing with pre/post carbon filtering and UV light exposure turns the municipal pee that you enjoy so much into a far better tasting liquid (and solid). You say it's just marketing, but the build up of rust and mineral scale in my plumbing fixtures and pipes tells me otherwise.

Plus it's fun to buy and drink cases of bottled water just to irk the tree huggers preaching their religion.

You mean the same pee you drink out of a bottle? It comnes from the same source, and for the most part, gets less treatment since the othger sources (non-muni) are from springs with no regulation.

With bottled water from muni's, all that is done before it leaves to go to the bottle plant.

Knock yourself out, spend the money to try and irk someone. But with the problem of waste disposal, it is something people should be aware of.

Not to mention its fun to call people who drink bottled water at home stupid.

No more no less.

Edited by guyser, 09 May 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[bush_cheney2004]

As i said, bottled water around here ....Yes it does, #1 and 2 brands.

If you say so....I'm sure I can find a vending machine that breaks that jinx.

You mean the same pee you drink out of a bottle? It comnes from the same source, and for the most part, gets less treatment since the othger sources (non-muni) are from springs with no regulation.

Fine by me, as I prefer a more refined pee when drinking or cooking.

Knock yourself out, spend the money to try and irk someone. But with the problem of waste disposal, it is something people should be aware of.

I am very much aware of it, but prefer to use the entire 90 gallon recycling container for which I pay. Plastic, glass, aluminum...it matters not to me. I heard that some Canadians still have to stand in line to get bottle deposits back. How primitive!

Not to mention its fun to call people who drink bottled water at home stupid.

Those who can't afford to do so usually do!

No more no less.

Indeed.

[TimG]

People drink dasani for the taste? Uh no.....they bought into marketing.

It is quite presumptuous for you to assume that you know why people buy a product. The so called taste tests don't mean much because tap water taste varies greatly depending on when and where you take the sample. The reality is some people have bought into the hype just like some people buy into the hype about vitamins, organic foods or calvin klein clothes. But they don't need to justify their choice and busybodies have no business trying to impose their standards on them.

[Bonam]

It comnes from the same source

Repeating the same lie doesn't make it true. Just because the crappy bottled water you choose to refer to comes from the same source, doesn't mean someone with a brain can't read a label and check what the source is. Dasani and Aquafina taste like crap by the way, and I don't drink them. My go to cheap bottled water brands are Arrowhead and Crystal Geyser, both of which really are spring water, not tap water.

The cost is about $0.20 / L by the way. The people who make absurd (and irrelevant) claims like it "costs more than gasoline" are way off. You can always go for the more expensive brands like Evian, and it does taste good, but cheaper spring water brands are good enough for me.

The best water of course is that which I bottle myself when going up to one of the nearby glaciers and collect pristine meltwater that has been frozen as blue ice for tens of thousands of years. Since I bottle it in stainless steel bottles, it also doesn't have the slight plastic taste of commercially bottled water. Sadly since it has to be carried out on your back for 10+ km you can only get a little bit at a time. That stuff is a rare treat, it can be appreciated like a good aged wine.

Edited by Bonam, 09 May 2012 - 08:37 PM.

[CPCFTW]

How about the pipes in people's homes being a factor? If you live in an older home, you probably have worse pipes than even a Dasani or Aquafina bottling plant. There's a video of Dasani's purification process here:

http://www.dasani.co...ut-purification

I can tell you that it looks a lot more sophisticated than my tap... and I'm sure the pipes are far better maintained.


Furthermore, buying bottled water means you don't have to waste time and effort washing cups.

[GostHacked]

If nothing else: tap water can have a strong chlorine taste depending where you are. Bottled water does not have that issue.

Since some bottled water does come from municipality sources (with our chlorine, and other things put into the water) .. I will say that bottled water DOES have that issue. It's not regulated like your tap water is.

Water is water is water, and without all the crap put into tap water, or that is naturally out there in the spring water (different mineral compositions in the water because of the area it's coming from) ...

If you can taste the difference in water, I would say you are tasting what is present in the water, or the lack of these items in the water. That to me can explain the difference people experience.

[guyser]

Repeating the same lie doesn't make it true.

Agreed.

What part isnt true?

Just because the crappy bottled water you choose to refer to comes from the same source, doesn't mean someone with a brain can't read a label and check what the source is.

I only quoted the top 2 selling brands. I generally dont buy it .

The label may not tell you a thing, unless it comes from a spring or other underground source.

[GostHacked]

Agreed.

What part isnt true?

I only quoted the top 2 selling brands. I generally dont buy it .

The label may not tell you a thing, unless it comes from a spring or other underground source.

Depending on local regulations, there might not even be a requirement to label the source of the bottled water.

[Peeves]

Who are you calling stupid? I love how quick all you fools are to pass judgement. People will pay for products that they prefer. Period. Some of us prefer the taste of certain brands of bottled water as compared to tap water. And we'll drink it whether or not some moralizing jerk that can't keep their nose out of other people's business thinks its stupid.

I think it's stupid that people drink beer. Do you see me creating threads that people waste money and resources on bottling and distributing it? No. None of my business.



Unconscionable eh? What about the waste associated with making all other kinds of consumer products that aren't strictly necessary? Bottled water is a product like any other. Some people like it, others don't. No one is forced to drink it if they don't want to.

Sorry,it is not 'like any other product'. Its effect is an unnecessary blight on our environment and while true that is as are many other products, but there is a viable alternative. Those using bottled water simply don't care about the impact of using a product that serves no purpose in most daily lives.

There are alternatives ..better choices. So continue if you must but face the reality of what you sow.
and the cost.

Edited by Peeves, 10 May 2012 - 08:31 AM.

[guyser]

Depending on local regulations, there might not even be a requirement to label the source of the bottled water.

Regulatioons require that the ground source of the water has to be labeled. Not muni-water.

Ergo it has to be labeled mineral water or spring water and ingredients then go on that label.

Muni water has none of that nor do bottlers of muni water have to label the source.