Are Québécois that define themselves first as French -Québécois really implying they aren't Canadians?
Are First Nations, that reside (now, some historically apparently never did), in Canada on their own territory or reserve Canadians in their mind?
Are those that would leave Canada and ally themselves with Somali causes or to fight our NATO allies really Canadians?
Are those that immigrate or claim and receive refugee status then return to visit or live for years on end in their former country of 'threat' Canadians?
Are those (immigrants -what ever),that only live in Canada frequently enough to gain benefits,,health care, rescue etc. really Canadians?
I think the criteria should be examined and possibly tightened up.
So I ask, what is or defines a Canadian?
Started by Peeves, May 10 2012 08:44 AM
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:58 AM
it's not someone who purposely draws out false-fronted strawman wedge issues, particularly anti-immigration/anti-refugee ones.Are Québécois that define themselves first as French -Québécois really implying they aren't Canadians?
Are First Nations, that reside (now, some historically apparently never did), in Canada on their own territory or reserve Canadians in their mind?
Are those that would leave Canada and ally themselves with Somali causes or to fight our NATO allies really Canadians?
Are those that immigrate or claim and receive refugee status then return to visit or live for years on end in their former country of 'threat' Canadians?
Are those (immigrants -what ever),that only live in Canada frequently enough to gain benefits,,health care, rescue etc. really Canadians?
the criteria? Which would be... what?I think the criteria should be examined and possibly tightened up.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:01 AM
it's not someone who purposely draws out false-fronted strawman wedge issues, particularly anti-immigration/anti-refugee ones.
the criteria? Which would be... what?
So you think the status quo is acceptable?
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:28 AM
Being born here.
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Gettng citizenship status.
This.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:45 AM
This thread should just die. What an inane question....
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:54 AM
Yes it is.
It answersd the question with all the criteria needed.
I was born here = I am Canadian
My sister in law got her citizenship papers = She is Canadian.
Am I missing something?
Thats a means of getting the citizenship, not the criteria you need to meet to gain citizenship. What I am stating is that we should have criteria for people to meet to be able to become citizens. My parents immigrated to Canada almost 16 years ago along with two young children, and then they build their lives here by working and paying taxes and being responsible citizens. I personally know some immigrants that come to Canada and milk the system for decades while providing nothing back to Canada. There is no need to let people stay in Canada if they show no desire to be productive members of society.
Another thing is getting a passport and living in another country for 40 years and renewing the Canadian passport just incase you need evacuation like people in Lebanon amongst other places did and still do. They become citizens get their passports and move back to Lebanon and live for decades without visiting Canada or even without being able to speak either of our official languages and keep the passport only as an escape route for an evacuation.
If an immigrant turns out to be a career criminal then revoke their Canadian Citizenship and send them back to their home country. For people Born in Canada it is different as you cannot revoke their citizenship.
To become a Canadian Citizen you need to be either born in Canada or meet the requirements to immigrate to Canada, meet the requirements to gain citizenship, and finally meet the requirements to maintain citizenship. No need to bring people in Canada so that they can live on welfare for the remainder of their lives and once they "retire" they continue to get government assistance even though they might have been unemployed for the previous 20 or 30 years.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:58 AM
Canada, Ireland and New Zealand all have one thing in common; they in the shadow of a bigger and better-known neighbour and all three are going out of their way to convince the outside world that they are different than the bigger neighbour they are overshadowed by.
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