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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:19 PM

my aging wife and I have androids, young vixen daughters have BB and Iphone...


iPhones are a fashion statement for girls. I have yet to find a bejeweled Samsung Galaxy case. :D

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:27 PM

ya, what does it matter how many thousands more apps one system has vs another, how many could someone possibly need...and if it isn't a free app I don't want it B)


I think more games are made for iOS, specifically iPad. iPad games are fairly well made but at $500+ for an iPad it's the most expensive gaming system there is.

I watch a show on G4TV that reviews at least one iOS game an episode and I often can't find the game they're reviewing on my phone yet. But things are changing, I read that Gameloft, one of the bigger mobile phone game makers, are going to offer all there games on both platforms.

I used an iPod touch for a few years and I bought a few games for it. But now I see my phone as more a tool and information device more than a gaming console. I do have a few free games like Pinball, Tetris and a Trivia App. If I'm going to spend more than 10 minutes playing a video game, I'll turn on my Xbox.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:28 PM

iPhones are a fashion statement for girls. I have yet to find a bejeweled Samsung Galaxy case. :D

hey now that you mention it, there are a lot of kiosks in the malls that cater to Iphone accessories...I had an incredible assortment of cases for my galaxy to choose from, clear, white or purple :rolleyes: ...
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:35 PM

hey now that you mention it, there are a lot of kiosks in the malls that cater to Iphone accessories...I had an incredible assortment of cases for my galaxy to choose from, clear, white or purple :rolleyes: ...


The case anyone should get is a Casemate or Otter case. My phone still retails for $600, don't every want to break it.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

The case anyone should get is a Casemate or Otter case. My phone still retails for $600, don't every want to break it.

my GS2 was $150 plus 3 year contract...I've dropped it a number of times no damage...
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 05:07 PM

my GS2 was $150 plus 3 year contract...I've dropped it a number of times no damage...


They let you pay that because you're locked in for 3 years. If you didn't get a contract they'd charge you $600.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

They let you pay that because you're locked in for 3 years. If you didn't get a contract they'd charge you $600.

I know...but I feel better when I say it the other way...
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:25 PM

I think more games are made for iOS, specifically iPad. iPad games are fairly well made but at $500+ for an iPad it's the most expensive gaming system there is.

I watch a show on G4TV that reviews at least one iOS game an episode and I often can't find the game they're reviewing on my phone yet. But things are changing, I read that Gameloft, one of the bigger mobile phone game makers, are going to offer all there games on both platforms.

I used an iPod touch for a few years and I bought a few games for it. But now I see my phone as more a tool and information device more than a gaming console. I do have a few free games like Pinball, Tetris and a Trivia App. If I'm going to spend more than 10 minutes playing a video game, I'll turn on my Xbox.


IT always makes me wonder why Nintendo and Sony haven't caught on to the imminent (IMO) death of their portables. The mass market doesn't want quality games with developed story. They want dinky games that monkeys can play. I haven't found a game on any portable device that wasn't anything other than a time waster. Alas, I am someone who enjoys story line and character building, and strategic games that require some thought and planning. Not just point and "flick". (I do find angry birds mildly entertaining though)
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:36 PM

my GS2 was $150 plus 3 year contract...I've dropped it a number of times no damage...


Some designers like to put the glass right up to the edges so that the screen is more likely to crack. They claim it is for looks but it is designed to break.

-> buffer from glass to edge
-> edge that sticks up above the glass to absorb shock/prevent contact a bit.

Noticeably missing in some products that I notice smashed everywhere I go.
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 09:18 PM

Some designers like to put the glass right up to the edges so that the screen is more likely to crack. They claim it is for looks but it is designed to break.

-> buffer from glass to edge
-> edge that sticks up above the glass to absorb shock/prevent contact a bit.

Noticeably missing in some products that I notice smashed everywhere I go.

I can believe there may be a design flaw which causes breakage but it wouldn't be good business to sabotage your own product you erode a loyal repeat customer trust...
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 10:18 AM

I can believe there may be a design flaw which causes breakage but it wouldn't be good business to sabotage your own product you erode a loyal repeat customer trust...



You can when it is entirely the "fault" of the user. I mean, products aren't meant to be dropped.

Apple is really good at moving the blame to the consumer, since the average consumer understands very little about HOW the tech works, they buy it.
"You aren't holding the phone correctly." (Lies, Apple implemented an antenna poorly)
"The heat is within specifications and is only uncomfortable when playing games for a long time: (Or maybe they didn't implment proper cooling in their product? maybe?)
"Your phone is running slower because newer apps take more power" (Mostly lies, phones run slower because patches increase the overhead required for the phone to run, refresh it back to the original and it will run just as fast as it did the day you bought it)

It's all part of planned obsolesence. Apple has always been a subtle pusher of it. Attempted to take out replaceable batteries, inability to fix the tech on your own, inability to upgrade your hardware, inability to install new software on older hardware, etc, etc.

It's why my wife's iBook couldn't access the internet when it was 3-4 years old...

It's why iCloud doesn't work on any Mac with Snow leopard (which is only a few years old!) even while the competition (Dropbox) Works on anything, including linux.

Any other company takes heat for their failures and often admits they are working on a solution. Apple could sell 200sq ft condo's and tell everyone that it's not that they made the condo's small, it's that you don't know how to efficiently use space. iZombies would buy them.

The Lightbulb Conspiracy is an interesting film about planned and forced obsolescence. Discussing how lightbulbs used to have 2000hour lives and were shortend to 1000hours to sell more. The scary part is for modern technology. Companies have designed their printers to shutdown and fail after a certain number of prints with a simple counter chip. Unless you are the engineer of the product, you have no clue what is purposefully going wrong with your tech and will have 0 chance of ever finding it. Slowly increase drain on the processing power, poor reception, etc.

Edited by MiddleClassCentrist, 10 August 2012 - 10:20 AM.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 06:40 AM

Good knows for "Android Fan Boys"

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/08/17/latest-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update-news-for-devices/

Over on Pocket-Lint they’ve been keeping tabs on all the latest manufacturer statements about the Jelly Bean update so we thought we’d tell you the latest on what they have to say as well as the latest rumors. We’ll start off with Samsung and in an earlier statement regarding the Jelly Bean update Samsung referred to the Galaxy S3 (S III) and also Galaxy Note when mentioning which devices might be eligible for the upgrade. Speculation later followed that the Samsung Galaxy S2 (S II) would also receive the update and the latest rumors of the last few days speak of the Jelly Bean update for the Galaxy S3 possibly beginning to roll out on August 29, the same date as the Galaxy Note 2 is expected to debut. It is not yet clear if the Galaxy Note 2 will launch with Jelly Bean but if not then an update is expected in the following months.


I have ICS and have had relatively few problems but I've read lots of horror stories about the OS. A large majority of Android devices are still on OS 2.3 or AKA as Gingerbread. Seems to be the most stable version of the OS.

The thing about Android is it's so open form that you can get launchers and apps that do many of the things the latest updates get.

That being said the two features that make Jelly Bean interesting are rather compelling. Apparently you can replay to text and e-mail notification straight from the notification bar. So you don't have to launch e-mail or texting software to send an e-mail or a text. And Google Now sounds rather interesting if you don't mind your phone learning from you and recommending stuff for you.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:29 AM

You can when it is entirely the "fault" of the user. I mean, products aren't meant to be dropped.

Apple is really good at moving the blame to the consumer, since the average consumer understands very little about HOW the tech works, they buy it.
"You aren't holding the phone correctly." (Lies, Apple implemented an antenna poorly)
"The heat is within specifications and is only uncomfortable when playing games for a long time: (Or maybe they didn't implment proper cooling in their product? maybe?)
"Your phone is running slower because newer apps take more power" (Mostly lies, phones run slower because patches increase the overhead required for the phone to run, refresh it back to the original and it will run just as fast as it did the day you bought it)

It's all part of planned obsolesence. Apple has always been a subtle pusher of it. Attempted to take out replaceable batteries, inability to fix the tech on your own, inability to upgrade your hardware, inability to install new software on older hardware, etc, etc.

It's why my wife's iBook couldn't access the internet when it was 3-4 years old...

It's why iCloud doesn't work on any Mac with Snow leopard (which is only a few years old!) even while the competition (Dropbox) Works on anything, including linux.

Any other company takes heat for their failures and often admits they are working on a solution. Apple could sell 200sq ft condo's and tell everyone that it's not that they made the condo's small, it's that you don't know how to efficiently use space. iZombies would buy them.

The Lightbulb Conspiracy is an interesting film about planned and forced obsolescence. Discussing how lightbulbs used to have 2000hour lives and were shortend to 1000hours to sell more. The scary part is for modern technology.

yeah sure some of that goes on but I tend to think most of it due to unforeseen design flaws and companies don't want to admit to it... and technology advances so quickly many products are obsolete and incompatible with newer products even before they break down...


Companies have designed their printers to shutdown and fail after a certain number of prints with a simple counter chip. Unless you are the engineer of the product, you have no clue what is purposefully going wrong with your tech and will have 0 chance of ever finding it. Slowly increase drain on the processing power, poor reception, etc.

here is where I find fault with that logic...maybe I'm alone in thinking this way but I doubt it, when a product fails prematurely I NEVER buy a product from that company again...Viewsonic, panasonic, dell, toshiba will never again get another loonie from me...so if planned failure is part of their business plan it's failing miserably...I value reliability and reward companies that provide it with repeat business...
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:42 PM

20 fart simulation apps don't make a difference when I only need 1 for the occasional stupid gag.



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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:42 PM

I have a Lenovo ThinkPad, which is an Android PC tablet I wanted an e-reader and this is the same thing, but has a web browser and camera attached to it. Nice handy little device that runs on a wireless network. but it does not seem to be able to multi-task. If I run a web page in the browser, such as streaming radio then open new browser window to read the news headlines, the streaming radio halts. It resumes again if I make it the foreground window. I assume it's just a limitation of Android.