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#61 Boges

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:41 AM

As for making payments - yeah, it will come in handy but I doubt any store near me will have NFC payments for at least another couple of years so, once again, if no one is using it yet why do I need it now?


Many places have NFC using the chip on your credit card currently. The tech will be transferrable.

When I use my Mastercard at the Gas Station I just tap a sensor and the payment is made. I can also do that at Loblaw grocery stores for purchases under $50.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:39 AM

do you think it's possible to become addicted to smart phones?


Yes. Simply take a walk down the street, or in a mall. How many are looking at their smartphones instead of looking where they are walking?

People need to constantly check it for the latest message. My sister has a hard time putting it down.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:40 AM

Many places have NFC using the chip on your credit card currently. The tech will be transferrable.

When I use my Mastercard at the Gas Station I just tap a sensor and the payment is made. I can also do that at Loblaw grocery stores for purchases under $50.


This is all good if the technology works. When it fails, you will want cash.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:44 AM

Why? My home PC is way easier to use and has a 24 inch screen. There's very little I need to research or check out while I'm out and about.

RIM's problem is it moved away from its core business - enterprise communication, to try and take advantage of all those people who thought that since BBs were being used by all the important people they wanted one too - to be cool. Well, the cool people moved on.


This is true. Blackberry rules the business world and that is where they should keep their focus. It's the most secure platform for enterprise email on mobile devices. iPhones simply cannot by design be that secure.

Blackberrys are tools, iPhones are toys.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:05 AM

Many places have NFC using the chip on your credit card currently. The tech will be transferrable.

When I use my Mastercard at the Gas Station I just tap a sensor and the payment is made. I can also do that at Loblaw grocery stores for purchases under $50.


Yes, that's right. Some gas stations do have it though I have never used it.

In BC we have to pay for our gas before we start pumping it so I always end up following the instructions on the screen, swipe my card and pump as fast as I can. :D
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:17 AM

This is true. Blackberry rules the business world and that is where they should keep their focus. It's the most secure platform for enterprise email on mobile devices. iPhones simply cannot by design be that secure.

Blackberrys are tools, iPhones are toys.


I run a business.

I switched from Blackberry to iPhone back in May.

All the things I was doing on my BBY I now do on my iPhone.

But then I don't bother to log on to the server from my phone (although I can) because I find working on a < 3" screen to be pointless for what I do.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:43 AM

This is all good if the technology works. When it fails, you will want cash.


I almost never use cash for necessities like gas and groceries. If I need cash there are bank machines a plenty.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:21 PM

I almost never use cash for necessities like gas and groceries. If I need cash there are bank machines a plenty.


I'm the same way except that I likely have hundreds, if not thousands, of loonies and twoonies floating around in various jars in my house.

Those are being saved for the apocalypse along with a little bit of gold, canned items, some good knives, a bow with some arrows, and a samuarai sword.

Guess I should get a gun but I just don't like them.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:02 PM

I almost never use cash for necessities like gas and groceries. If I need cash there are bank machines a plenty.


How do you expect to withdraw money when the technology fails? Also think of the hoops you need to jump through if you chip card does not work?

I try to carry some cash on me at all times.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

How do you expect to withdraw money when the technology fails? Also think of the hoops you need to jump through if you chip card does not work?

I try to carry some cash on me at all times.


I like to carry cash with me too. But I don't use it for gas, groceries, departments stores etc.

Credit Cards have the benefit of giving you at least 3 weeks to pay and some benefits whether it be cashback or some form of loyalty points.

I do worry about losing my phone with such vital information on it but it never leaves my pocket.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:13 PM

I run a business.

I switched from Blackberry to iPhone back in May.

All the things I was doing on my BBY I now do on my iPhone.

But then I don't bother to log on to the server from my phone (although I can) because I find working on a < 3" screen to be pointless for what I do.


The main reason a business goes with Blackberry is secure email.

http://cloudcomputingtopics.com/2012/02/blackberry-vs-iphone-why-it-causes-office-wars/

Security

Quite possibly the biggest reason to get a Blackberry is for its security. Whether you are using the Blackberry messenger, your lightning fast internet provided by one of the many wireless internet service providers or sending a message or an email, the security provided by a Blackberry phone is unmatched.

On the other hand, there is the iPhone. Many people think that an iPhone is not as secure as a Blackberry many digress. With the technological advancements that have been made in the 21st century (and recently), an iPhone has become safer than ever before.

When you are accessing your files from your office’s server, it is important to have maximum security. This ensures that sensitive information does not get into the wrong hands. In this regard, blackberry owners really have an advantage – one they boast about in the office.


Countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia had confronted RIM to get them access to the servers in order to snoop on their people. That right there tells you about how secure the system is.

I am not sure I would own a Blackberry as a personal device (or any smartphone for that matter), but as a business device, security is everything, or you risk theft of your data/emails and intellectual property.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:32 PM

The main reason a business goes with Blackberry is secure email.

http://cloudcomputingtopics.com/2012/02/blackberry-vs-iphone-why-it-causes-office-wars/

Countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia had confronted RIM to get them access to the servers in order to snoop on their people. That right there tells you about how secure the system is.

I am not sure I would own a Blackberry as a personal device (or any smartphone for that matter), but as a business device, security is everything, or you risk theft of your data/emails and intellectual property.


In the real world employees are using more Androids and iPhones than BBY for email.

I highly doubt that sending an email through my phone is that much more/less secure than from my computer.

There is also the matter of mobile banking.

Once again, I don't know but I highly doubt that my phone is any more or less secure doing it than if I continued to use my BBY or if I used my laptop.

IOW, I suspect that BBY claims have little value in a world where security seems to be good enough and people are going to use their devices for what they want anyway.

This is why RIM is not going to be around much longer - they cannot rely on the paranoid sky-is-falling crowd to buy their phones in sufficient numbers. Especially since BBY gives the information to any government that asks.

These crazies don't like that at all. :D
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:39 PM

I feel bad for RIM. BB's are solid devices and I still see lots of people using them. It's just they were way to slow to innovate.

The delays on BB10 will likely kill them. When you get new Android phones every few months, people are going to switch if there isn't a spiffy new BB when their contract is up.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:59 PM

I almost never use cash for necessities like gas and groceries. If I need cash there are bank machines a plenty.

Same here. My wife and I make about $3000 a year playing the "rebate" shell game. And we get gas points by buying at Stop N' Shop.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:22 PM

Android = Linux = thumbs up
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