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[bud]

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The Obama administration is expected to announce an additional $680 million in U.S. financial aid aimed at helping Israel purchase additional Iron Dome batteries to intercept rockets.

this is on top of the $3 billion a year that israel receives from the u.s. taxpayers, who are borrowing the money from china.

all this talk about how israel can take care of itself is a bunch of crap. israel is a welfare state and the american people are using their credit card to pay for them.

Edited by bud, 14 May 2012 - 12:31 PM.

[Signals.Cpl]

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The Obama administration is expected to announce an additional $680 million in U.S. financial aid aimed at helping Israel purchase additional Iron Dome batteries to intercept rockets.

this is on top of the $3 billion a year that israel receives from the u.s. taxpayers, who are borrowing the money from china.

all this talk about how israel can take care of itself is a bunch of crap. israel is a welfare state and the american people are using their credit card to pay for them.

Someone needs to do the right thing. Cant let the Iranians cause Holocaust 2.0

[American Woman]

israel is a welfare state and the american people are using their credit card to pay for them.

Good thing you're not an American, eh?

[bud]

Good thing you're not an American, eh?

it's a good thing. however, it's a bad thing that america's actions, including their military and economic decisions effect the whole world.

i understand though, the jewish vote and money is important and we're a few months away from the elections. gay zionists must be totally googooly-eyed for obama right now.

[American Woman]

it's a good thing.

That it is - for so many reasons.

however, it's a bad thing that america's actions, including their military and economic decisions effect the whole world.

Quite frankly, that's the rest of the world's problem to the extent that every other country's government puts their own country's needs above others, and rightfully so.

i understand though, the jewish vote and money is important and we're a few months away from the elections. gay zionists must be totally googooly-eyed for obama right now.

Yep. I'm sure it'll win Obama the election, being that there's a huge voting sector of gay Zionists.

Edited by American Woman, 14 May 2012 - 01:18 PM.

[bud]

Quite frankly, that's the rest of the world's problem to the extent that every other country's government puts their own country's needs above others, and rightfully so.

however, in this case, america is putting another country's needs above theirs.

Yep. I'm sure it'll win Obama the election, being that there's a huge voting sector of gay Zionists.

*wooooosh*

[Signals.Cpl]

however, in this case, america is putting another country's needs above theirs.

When the 7.8million citizens of the other country are under threat of death, I think the US is understandably willing to protect them.

[American Woman]

however, in this case, america is putting another country's needs above theirs.

That's simply your non-American opinion.

*wooooosh*

Yep. Right over your head.

[bud]

When the 7.8million citizens of the other country are under threat of death, I think the US is understandably willing to protect them.

why can't israel take care of itself? especially with all the military technology and aid they've already received.

the more this goes on, the more obvious it is that israel is a nation dependent on america for massive financial, military, and political support. israel cannot stand on it's own two feet and never has.

[American Woman]

When the 7.8million citizens of the other country are under threat of death, I think the US is understandably willing to protect them.

It's to the rest of the western world's advantage to have a western ally, a successful democracy, in the Middle East.

[Signals.Cpl]

why can't israel take care of itself? especially with all the military technology and aid they've already received.

the more this goes on, the more obvious it is that israel is a nation dependent on america for massive financial, military, and political support. israel cannot stand on it's own two feet and never has.

I would disagree with that statement.
-1948 Arab–Israeli War vs 12 nations
-Six-Day War 1967 vs 12 nations
-War of Attrition 1967-1970 vs 6 nations
-Yom Kippur War 1973 vs 16 nations
-1982 Lebanon War vs 4 nations
-2006 Lebanon War vs 2 nations


They sure look dependant.

[bud]

It's to the rest of the western world's advantage to have a western ally, a successful democracy, in the Middle East.

what a load of jingoistic crap.

how is supporting israel's aggressive rogue like behaviour an advantage to any country?

not only is israel's policies against the palestinians non-democractic but many of them have been concluded to be in violation of international law. policies like the continued increasing of the illegal settlements and annexation of palestinian land (as concluded by resolution 446 and international court of justice), the illegal blockade of gaza, the military adventures in gaza and lebanon which have violated international law and many more.

israel's actions against the palestinians are not the actions of a true democratic country.

[bush_cheney2004]

it's a good thing. however, it's a bad thing that america's actions, including their military and economic decisions effect the whole world.

Sorry...your Empire had its day...now long gone. But before it fell it had a big role in supporting Israel's self-declared statehood. If it helps you to blame the Americans for continuing the exercise, have at it.

i understand though, the jewish vote and money is important and we're a few months away from the elections. gay zionists must be totally googooly-eyed for obama right now.

...then you must understand that there is absolutely nothing you can do about it from Vancouver.

[Signals.Cpl]

what a load of jingoistic crap.

how is supporting israel's aggressive rogue like behaviour an advantage to any country?

not only is israel's policies against the palestinians non-democractic but many of them have been concluded to be in violation of international law. policies like the continued increasing of the illegal settlements and annexation of palestinian land (as concluded by resolution 446 and international court of justice), the illegal blockade of gaza, the military adventures in gaza and lebanon which have violated international law and many more.

israel's actions against the palestinians are not the actions of a true democratic country.

Its not like the Arabs don't keep attacking Israel.

[bud]

Sorry...your Empire had its day...now long gone. But before it fell it had a big role in supporting Israel's self-declared statehood. If it helps you to blame the Americans for continuing the exercise, have at it.

unlike you, i have no problem criticizing any empires. whether it's 'my' empire or 'your' empire.

...then you must understand that there is absolutely nothing you can do about it from Vancouver.

the system is not sustainable and it's going to collapse. one of two things will happen; the u.s. will continue to decline and will no longer be able to give the same type of support, or israel will politically and financially implode. either way, the status quo will not continue for much longer.

see apartheid south africa.

Edited by bud, 14 May 2012 - 03:39 PM.