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#16 bush_cheney2004

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:04 PM

I read years back that during the mid thirties when Churchill was one of the lone members of Parliament decrying Nazi Germany and was written off as a loon, he bought a whole whack of Krupp Steel shares……..



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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:07 PM

Iraq was not a NATO joint. Boomers will remember far more running for the Canadian border as draft dodgers.


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:12 PM

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Just highlights his intelligence and foresight no? Purchase defence stocks before the war, not during ;)
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:13 PM

Yes, I helped one.
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Most came back...to face this:




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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:51 PM

Worked with quite a few Vietnam vets during my contract days. Don't know of any who returned their medals. How some were treated when they got home was another matter. Some things don't seem to change.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:23 PM

Boomers will remember when the soldiers came home from Nam and some of them to show their views on the war, threw their medals away, well the next generation did the same today in the US. Soldiers who have served in both wars, Afghanistan and Iraq, wanted to give their medals back to NATO, but because of the security surrounding the G8 leaders, they threw them....

First Topaz, make no mistake: Vietnam was one battle in the Cold War. And America (the West) for the good of us all, won the Cold War. We lost Poland in 1939, but then we won it back.

Second, don't mix the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq.

Third, Harper correctly said in Chicago that NATO's primary interest in Afghanistan was to show that no one in Afghanistan, or anyone in the world, should harbour people who threaten the West. I only fear whether these idiots got the message.

Nazi Germany certainly did. And I reckon that Hirohito's Japan did too.

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Topaz, the Berlin Wall is no more, and the Iron Curtain has fallen.

Twenty years later, too many western Marxist/socialist/leftist anti-Americans have not quite understood the meaning of this change.

In short, Americans ultimately won the Vietnam War just as the British ultimately won at Dunkerque.

Edited by August1991, 21 May 2012 - 11:34 PM.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:58 AM

But, we still insist on calling Saigon Ho Chi Minh City. It's on all the maps. It's kind of like calling Cairo Arab Spring City. But, hey... I hear the Georgia Strait is now the Salish Sea. Who knows what to call anything anymore?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:06 AM

Just highlights his intelligence and foresight no? Purchase defence stocks before the war, not during ;)


Indeed, suh. Plus, your own abilitah to form a regiment for the Union/Confedera-sah. My fav was the 33rd Virginia.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:10 AM

But, we still insist on calling Saigon Ho Chi Minh City. It's on all the maps. It's kind of like calling Cairo Arab Spring City. But, hey... I hear the Georgia Strait is now the Salish Sea. Who knows what to call anything anymore?

DogOnPorch, there was the Cold War.

In the Vietnam war/battle, many ordinary Americans did good.

America fought the Cold War, and won. For the good of us all.

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Nowadays, it is hard to understand this. But it's the truth.

The people who died fighting in Vietnam did good.

IMHO, this logic will cover: the parents/sisters might understand after all.

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Edited by August1991, 22 May 2012 - 02:53 AM.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:41 AM

DogOnPorch, there was the Cold War.

In the Vietnam war/battle, many ordinary Americans did good.

America fought the Cold War, and won. For the good of us all.


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:13 AM

Me thinks you're not getting my Anglais slang-o-rama.

Some 50,000 American men died in Vietnam.

Many women or children lost a father or husband. Nowadays, they lost a grandfather - or step-father.

Sisters lost a brother. People lost a friend.

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I'm not American, I was born later than the Vietnam War, but I can think, read and see. I appreciate that American soldiers fought this battle in Vietnam, and America won the Cold War.

Imagine!

These American men fighting in Vietnam successfully defended liberty.

Nowadays, the Soviet Union no longer exists. And Russian girls sleep with American men, because they want to... Or more likely, Russian women sleep with young American men.

Edited by August1991, 22 May 2012 - 06:01 AM.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:37 AM

I'm not American, I was born later than the Vietnam War, but I can think, read and see.


I don't know that you can align every east-west cold war conflict with good and evil so easily. How about Nicaragua ? El Salvador ? Chile ? They put those leftists in their place, boy howdy !

Also - you were born after 1975 ? :blink:

Nowadays, the Soviet Union no longer exists. And Russian girls sleep with American men, because they want to... Or more likely, Russian women sleep with the young man.


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:42 AM

...the Berlin Wall is no more, and the Iron Curtain has fallen.

Twenty years later, too many western Marxist/socialist/leftist anti-Americans have not quite understood the meaning of this change.

In short, Americans ultimately won the Vietnam War

at first... I just thought this was another venue for August1991 to play out his silly ongoing leftist baiting... at the expense of 'Nam' revisionism. And yet, damnit - "War is Hell"! Hoo-rah!

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:51 AM

If America WON the Viet-Nam War, where's South Viet-Nam these days?

Plus, the notion that all atheists = Stalin is just plain out-to-lunch. Manny just seems insecure in his apparent faith towards the invisible triple super ghost and needs someone to blame. Put down the matches, Manny.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:17 AM

If America WON the Viet-Nam War, where's South Viet-Nam these days?

Plus, the notion that all atheists = Stalin is just plain out-to-lunch. Manny just seems insecure in his apparent faith towards the invisible triple super ghost and needs someone to blame. Put down the matches, Manny.

Nice. Thus the notion that all muslims = Osama Bin Laden, or all christians = Pat Robertson, is equally out to lunch. Now that we are on level ground, we can relax. Dog is drooling from both sides of his mouth...



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