I wonder how Wilks' constituents feel after having put their faces out there too?
True blue Harper Conservatives notwithstanding, it should be a little humiliating to Canadians everywhere to have our elected dictatorship rubbed in our noses as flagrantly as it's been with this omnibus budget.
OmniBUSTED?
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:48 AM
You call it a dictatorship, me and the majority that back him call it a Democratically apointed Majority leader and we LIKE it! We like a guy that can keep his word and grow the economy..
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:28 AM
You call it a dictatorship, me and the majority that back him call it a Democratically apointed Majority leader and we LIKE it! We like a guy that can keep his word and grow the economy..
There is no "majority" backing Harper.
He has an artificial majority of seats in parliament that's a function of targeted campaigning, revealing a gaping weakness in our outdated 'first past the post' method of election.
How could Harper possibly have the support of the "majority" of Canadians when only selectively chosen ones are even allowed to go and hear him speak?
Even a majority elected (not "appointed") leader can be opposed by the people. It's not a free ticket. It is, in fact and in law, an oppportunity for a party to lead a government that can sustain the confidence of the people ... an opportunity and nothing more.
And if a party attains that majority fraudulently, it's pretty much certain that they won't retain the confidence of the people, or Parliament.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:41 AM
Really? Ahhhh yes, blame it on democracy and a broken system when YOUR guys dont get elected... Im sure it was ok when Cretien was in??
There is no "majority" backing Harper.
He has an artificial majority of seats in parliament that's a function of targeted campaigning, revealing a gaping weakness in our outdated 'first past the post' method of election.
How could Harper possibly have the support of the "majority" of Canadians when only selectively chosen ones are even allowed to go and hear him speak?
Even a majority elected (not "appointed") leader can be opposed by the people. It's not a free ticket. It is, in fact and in law, an oppportunity for a party to lead a government that can sustain the confidence of the people ... an opportunity and nothing more.
And if a party attains that majority fraudulently, it's pretty much certain that they won't retain the confidence of the people, or Parliament.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:28 AM
There are many forms of democracy. Most other countries have recognized the limitations of FPTP and implemented some form of proportionate representation by now.Really? Ahhhh yes, blame it on democracy and a broken system when YOUR guys dont get elected...
Im sure it was ok when Cretien was in??
Chretien? My 'guys'?
Surely you jest!
Do the HarperCons have no higher aspirations than to be as bad as the scandal-ridden Liberals?
We got rid of them, didn't we!
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:31 AM
Um Yes, and ALL of those with proportional representation are FAILING and DEFAULTING! You really should read the news.. Try to stay away from those Blogs that your keep refering everyone too..
There are many forms of democracy. Most other countries have recognized the limitations of FPTP and implemented some form of proportionate representation by now.
Chretien? My 'guys'?
Surely you jest!
Do the HarperCons have no higher aspirations than to be as bad as the scandal-ridden Liberals?
We got rid of them, didn't we!
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:27 PM
The majority of people don't back Harper.You call it a dictatorship, me and the majority that back him call it a Democratically apointed Majority leader and we LIKE it! We like a guy that can keep his word and grow the economy..
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free and civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as their religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:33 PM
The majority of people don't back Harper.
you got that right. the liberals were no better. we need an ndp federal goverment so that every canadian citizen can have equal access to wealth. why should a silver spooner drive an escalade while i have to drive my cavalier. enough greed in this country. lets give everyone an equal opportunity, an equal chance to be prosperous.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:36 PM
This ought to be interesting. A poster that's further left than me. Welcome to the board.you got that right. the liberals were no better. we need an ndp federal goverment so that every canadian citizen can have equal access to wealth. why should a silver spooner drive an escalade while i have to drive my cavalier. enough greed in this country. lets give everyone an equal opportunity, an equal chance to be prosperous.
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free and civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as their religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:50 PM
This ought to be interesting. A poster that's further left than me. Welcome to the board.
thanks for the welcome. we need to make changes in this country cybercoma. im with you.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:01 PM
I have to agree with Cybercoma on this one.
But stories like this just show that the conservatives are going to have a real hard time in a few years come election time!
What really surprises me is that no conservative MPs have jumped ship yet?
WWWTT
But stories like this just show that the conservatives are going to have a real hard time in a few years come election time!
What really surprises me is that no conservative MPs have jumped ship yet?
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:12 PM
you got that right. the liberals were no better. we need an ndp federal goverment so that every canadian citizen can have equal access to wealth. why should a silver spooner drive an escalade while i have to drive my cavalier. enough greed in this country. lets give everyone an equal opportunity, an equal chance to be prosperous.
What’s your educational background? And for the record, my Wife’s Escalade is white diamond, not silver…….Do you even know what Escalade means? It’s rather fitting for those (owners) that have climbed the social ladder…..
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The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government.
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Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
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Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:56 PM
Wtf am I? Chopped liver?This ought to be interesting. A poster that's further left than me. Welcome to the board.
No respect I tell you...
“This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:14 PM
Neo-con opinions on this don't count.You have to EARN respect...
“This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:45 PM
Just as many backed this majority as backed every other Canadian majority since WWII.The majority of people don't back Harper.
For that matter 37-38% is a pretty good majority for most of the standing European governments too.
Wake us when you get tired of regurgitating a talking point based on total ignorance of all things related to the Canadian political system or its history.
There is virtually no difference between the 3 major parties once they get into power.
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