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#1 Canuckistani

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:55 AM

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Economic prosperity, health and a strong social support network continue to correspond highly with happiness. Once again, the United States fails to make the top 10 happiest nations in the world, while countries like Australia, Israel and all of the Scandinavian nations do.

1. Denmark
> Life satisfaction score: 7.8
> Employment rate: 73% (6th highest)
> Self-reported good health: 71% (17th highest)
> Employees working long hours: 1.92% (4th lowest)
> Disposable income: $23,213 (15th lowest)
> Educational attainment: 76% (18th lowest)
> Life expectancy: 79.3 (11th lowest)


2. Norway
> Life satisfaction score: 7.6
> Employment rate: 75% (4th highest)
> Self-reported good health: 80% (8th highest)
> Employees working long hours: 2.66% (5th lowest)
> Disposable income: $30,465 (3rd highest)
> Educational attainment: 81% (tied - 15th highest)
> Life expectancy:81.2 (10th highest)

3. Netherlands
> Life satisfaction score: 7.5
> Employment rate: 75% (tied - 3rd highest)
> Self-reported good health: 77% (11th highest)
> Employees working long hours: 0.68% (2nd lowest)
> Disposable income: $25,740 (13th highest)
> Educational attainment: 73% (15th lowest)
> Life expectancy: 80.8 (14th highest)

4. Switzerland
> Life satisfaction score: 7.5
> Employment rate: 79% (1st highest)
> Self-reported good health: 87% (4th highest)
> Employees working long hours: 5.87% (17th highest)
> Disposable income: $27,756 (5th most)
> Educational attainment: 87% (8th highest)
> Life expectancy: 82.6 (2nd highest)

5. Austria
> Life satisfaction score: 7.5
> Employment rate: 72% (8th highest)
> Self-reported good health: 69% (17th lowest)
> Employees working long hours: 9.02% (10th highest)
> Disposable income: $27,541 (7th highest)
> Educational attainment: 82% (tied - 12th highest)
> Life expectancy: 80.7 (22nd lowest)

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9. Canada
> Life satisfaction score: 7.4
> Employment rate: 72% (7th highest)
> Self-reported good health: 88% (3rd highest)
> Employees working long hours: 3.91% (11th lowest)
> Disposable income: $27,138 (8th highest)
> Educational attainment: 88% (5th highest)
> Life expectancy: 80.8 years (13th highest)


http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/the-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html?page=1

Edited by Canuckistani, 25 May 2012 - 01:17 PM.


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:10 PM

This is the first topic I've started here. If I've broken any rules, LMK.



http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/the-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html?page=2



What do they mean disposable income? Money after taxes or money after my bills are paid? Because I can tell you I don't know many people with $27,000 disposable income.

And how do they get Life Satisfaction score?
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:18 PM

What do they mean disposable income? Money after taxes or money after my bills are paid? Because I can tell you I don't know many people with $27,000 disposable income.

And how do they get Life Satisfaction score?


Disposable income is total personal income minus personal current taxes.


Life Satisfaction - they asked some people some questions would be my guess. Same questions they asked some people in other countries.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:23 PM

How happy are you that you are not dead:

1) Extatic
2) Very happy
3) glad
4) Death doesnt seem that bad
5) i was i was dead..

Till you figure that out, These survery are complete BS.. Funded by a left leaning group wanting to see Unions everywhere. Thats just a guess however..

Life Satisfaction - they asked some people some questions would be my guess. Same questions they asked some people in other countries.



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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:25 PM

Life Satisfaction - they asked some people some questions would be my guess. Same questions they asked some people in other countries.


What questions? Are you happy to be alive? Do you enjoy not being dead?

If we don't get the survey we cannot for sure say that they are happy or not. Did they ask 10,000 Canadians from all over the country in all walks of life and make a guess or did they ask people in Toronto right outside the welfare office?
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:30 PM

What questions? Are you happy to be alive? Do you enjoy not being dead?

If we don't get the survey we cannot for sure say that they are happy or not. Did they ask 10,000 Canadians from all over the country in all walks of life and make a guess or did they ask people in Toronto right outside the welfare office?


You really should ask them. My bet would be on the former.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:32 PM

How happy are you that you are not dead:

1) Extatic
2) Very happy
3) glad
4) Death doesnt seem that bad
5) i was i was dead..

Till you figure that out, These survery are complete BS.. Funded by a left leaning group wanting to see Unions everywhere. Thats just a guess however..


Sure, a guess pulled out of you know where. This is OECD data analysed by 24/7 Wall Street. I doubt that an organization that does analysis for equity and global investors is all that left leaning or wants unions everywhere. You should do a bit of research before you spout off.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:35 PM

You really should ask them. My bet would be on the former.



Well then this survey means nothing. I can go out and get massive support for a anything if I ask questions that are framed to get the answer I want.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:41 PM

Well then this survey means nothing. I can go out and get massive support for a anything if I ask questions that are framed to get the answer I want.


How, if "they ask 10,000 Canadians from all over the country in all walks of life" does that mean nothing?

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:46 PM

How, if "they ask 10,000 Canadians from all over the country in all walks of life" does that mean nothing?



I am asking what they did, did they ask 10,000 people or was it an office poll. If they ask 10,000 people in order to get a proper view of the subject its one thing, asking 10,000 quebecers might give a different answer then 10,000 Albertans who might give a different answer from asking 10,000 prisoners.



If they don't present the questions asked to the people, define what disposable income means to them, or who they asked then this means NOTHING.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:50 PM

I am asking what they did, did they ask 10,000 people or was it an office poll. If they ask 10,000 people in order to get a proper view of the subject its one thing, asking 10,000 quebecers might give a different answer then 10,000 Albertans who might give a different answer from asking 10,000 prisoners.



If they don't present the questions asked to the people, define what disposable income means to them, or who they asked then this means NOTHING.


I'm sure they would be delighted to tell you if you just asked. Unfortunately the article I listed doesn't address your questions. But you saying it means nothing means nothing, since you have nothing to back up your contention that this is a bullshit survey. Why is it you think that the OECD and or 214/7 Wall Street are mickey mouse outfits?

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:56 PM

I'm sure they would be delighted to tell you if you just asked. Unfortunately the article I listed doesn't address your questions. But you saying it means nothing means nothing, since you have nothing to back up your contention that this is a bullshit survey. Why is it you think that the OECD and or 214/7 Wall Street are mickey mouse outfits?



You are trying to prove that a country is happy based on questions asked you do not know about. If I asked a group of anti-war protestors if they support war and I asked a group of pro-war protestors if they supported a war I would get nearly unanimous support for and against.


And you have nothing to prove that its NOT a bullshit survey.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:00 PM

Again with the Scandinavia is the greatest place on Earth sentiment. :rolleyes:

If those countries were so great why don't any of the countries have more than 10 million people?

You'd think their immigration would be high and people would be flocking to these places instead of shitholes like the US and Canada? :unsure:

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:10 PM

Again with the Scandinavia is the greatest place on Earth sentiment. :rolleyes:

If those countries were so great why don't any of the countries have more than 10 million people?

You'd think their immigration would be high and people would be flocking to these places instead of shitholes like the US and Canada? :unsure:


Because they are small countries that don't have an open door policy to immigration. Otherwise many people would flock there.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:24 PM

You are trying to prove that a country is happy based on questions asked you do not know about. If I asked a group of anti-war protestors if they support war and I asked a group of pro-war protestors if they supported a war I would get nearly unanimous support for and against.


And you have nothing to prove that its NOT a bullshit survey.



Maybe you'll find this helpful: http://www.keepeek.c...264121164-14-en


It's easy to just call bullshit, but you've got to have something to go on. The OECD is a pretty solid organization, they're not going to do what you've alleged.