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#16 waldo

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:55 PM

Soooo, by you thought process...

my thought process highlights this lil' ditty from the article you quoted from but, conveniently, failed to provide a link for:

The Conservative Party of Canada had lodged a formal complaint with Elections Canada following the convention, underlining that union and corporate donations are banned in Canada.

weasels! :lol: What was the Harper Conservative beef... did someone set up a free bar at the NDP convention? But hey now, don't Harper Conservatives know that corporations/unions are people! Didn't they get their U.S. Republican marching orders yet?

in any case, I'm sure your zeal brings a heartfelt tear from both Gerstein and Finley - hey now... did you know Harper made them Senators for their in-and-out contributions? :lol:

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:58 PM

I don't think Fletch realizes that he's not actually winning any arguments by being so extreme.

In order to win the minds of people and convince them you are right, you need to slowly pull them in with reasoning.

Not blatant party propaganda, here say and party talking points.


The dubious conservative posters are out in force today thumbing up pro-conservative comments. It's interesting to see.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:59 PM

Fletch is kind of a poor mans "Mr. Canada"?
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:01 PM

I DID know that! Do you know how Mulcair got his spot after jumpin from the libs??? Its a moot point... The point is that the NDP, the perveyors of good deeds and fair dust have been caught.... 2 times.... Only one more time than the Tories... "Over achievers"... 2 times?! Thay didn't learn from the first time? What does that tell you about their "lernin" ability? Or lack of it


my thought process highlights this lil' ditty from the article you quoted from but, conveniently, failed to provide a link for:


weasels! :lol: What was the Harper Conservative beef... did someone set up a free bar at the NDP convention? But hey now, don't Harper Conservatives know that corporations/unions are people! Didn't they get their U.S. Republican marching orders yet?

in any case, I'm sure your zeal brings a heartfelt tear from both Gerstein and Finley - hey now... did you know Harper made them Senators for their in-and-out contributions? :lol:



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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:04 PM

I DID know that! Do you know how Mulcair got his spot after jumpin from the libs??? Its a moot point... The point is that the NDP, the perveyors of good deeds and fair dust have been caught.... 2 times.... Only one more time than the Tories... "Over achievers"... 2 times?! Thay didn't learn from the first time? What does that tell you about their "lernin" ability? Or lack of it


Again....

A simple yes or no will suffice...

Do you think this illegality committed by the NDP is on an even level with potentially rigging a federal election?
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:06 PM

Fletch is kind of a poor mans "Mr. Canada"?

a wannabe Falange? Son of Falange?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:08 PM

So,in your mind,this seems to be the equivalent to potentially rigging an election and usurping democracy?

No--- we would have to wait (likely till the next millennium) for the NDP to win a majority in the house for that to happen---- till then they have to be small time crooks. :lol:

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:12 PM

No--- we would have to wait (likely till the next millennium) for the NDP to win a majority in the house for that to happen---- till then they have to be small time crooks. :lol:


So to clarify...

You feel the NDP are/will rig an election?

At least you admit this is "small time"...Talk to your boy,Fletch...
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:13 PM

Again....

A simple yes or no will suffice...

Do you think this illegality committed by the NDP is on an even level with potentially rigging a federal election?



It does not necessarily need to be greater then or equal to any other potential crimes. If both are true, then they are not equal BUT that would not make one bit of difference as both are illegal and thus are wrong.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:13 PM

a wannabe Falange? Son of Falange?


Well The Fletchster seems to have that creepy "Papa Harper" complex Mr. C has...
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:15 PM

It does not necessarily need to be greater then or equal to any other potential crimes. If both are true, then they are not equal BUT that would not make one bit of difference as both are illegal and thus are wrong.


Yes...Both are definately outside the law...

One seems to be an internal mishap that broke election financing laws...The other seems to be an attempt to usurp democracy in this country AND foist a potentially illegitimate government on the populous of this country.

Equal in scale???
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:16 PM

The sheer lack of transparency

is appalling for a Harper Conservative party that campaigned on accountability/transparency... speaking of:

Harper refuses to explain why Tory MPs rejected Elections Canada finance request

Prime Minister Harper is refusing to explain why Conservative M-P's rejected a request by Elections Canada for more power to verify campaign financial returns.

His evasions yesterday in the House of Commons were held up by Opposition M-P's as evidence the Conservatives have something to hide in the growing investigation of bogus election-day robocalls.

Elections Canada doesn't have the power to demand that political parties provide documentary evidence to back up their financial reports after each campaign.

And when the elections commissioner requested that he be given the same powers as his provincial counterparts, the governing majority on the procedure and House affairs committee balked.

The committee report, released last week, is being used by Opposition M-P's to demand greater transparency from the Harper government amid growing allegations of electoral fraud.

uhhh, about that transparency! Hey Fletch... what's Harper afraid of?

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:22 PM

is appalling for a Harper Conservative party that campaigned on accountability/transparency... speaking of:

Harper refuses to explain why Tory MPs rejected Elections Canada finance request


uhhh, about that transparency! Hey Fletch... what's Harper afraid of?


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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:57 PM

Yes...Both are definately outside the law...

One seems to be an internal mishap that broke election financing laws...The other seems to be an attempt to usurp democracy in this country AND foist a potentially illegitimate government on the populous of this country.

Equal in scale???


If both are true, then they both are illegal thats all, I have no intention to deceive myself that they could ever possibly be equal in any other way except that they both would be illegal.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:03 PM

I DID know that! Do you know how Mulcair got his spot after jumpin from the libs??? Its a moot point... The point is that the NDP, the perveyors of good deeds and fair dust have been caught.... 2 times.... Only one more time than the Tories...

But Felcher, are you forgetting all the other times the Tories got caught for spending too much? Here's just one. Everyone forgot about that because it's not nearly as bad as the real contempt for democracy the CPC showed in the last election with the robocall scandal.
Your attempt to distract from that issue shows your level of discomfort when your beloved CPC acts illegally. You shouldn't let your vile hatred of Layton and the NDP make you look foolish. :lol:

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